Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

StevieJ

Rinoa wrote: »

We could go to europe before the EU, we'll be able to go after we leave. We had clean air, rivers and beaches acts long before we joined the EU - and factory acts to protect workers since 1802.

In the 1980s, the British government tried to claim that the beaches of Brighton, Blackpool, Skegness and many other resorts weren’t used for bathing, to avoid dealing with the sewage, condoms and tampons that polluted them. Of the 27 beaches it agreed were used for swimming, nine were too dirty to reach the minimum bathing standard.
Today, after legal action from the EU and directives on bathing water and urban waste water, 99% of the UK’s 632 designated beaches have been deemed safe for swimming.
From Llandudno to Cromer, beaches that failed tests for faecal bacteria in 1988 are now rated as excellent, even though today’s standards are stricter than before.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/09/what-has-the-eu-ever-done-for-my-beach

cogito

StevieJ wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/09/what-has-the-eu-ever-done-for-my-beach

And none of this would have happened without the EU? Give over.

Arklight

Rinoa wrote: »

We could go to europe before the EU, we'll be able to go after we leave. We had clean air, rivers and beaches acts long before we joined the EU - and factory acts to protect workers since 1802.

Britain isn’t exactly legendary for the cleanliness of its public spaces now, and it was absolutely filthy before.

Baffled European tourists would recount going to beautiful nature spots, then watching British families pull up, eat a picnic, then dump all their trash and uneaten food on the ground before driving off.

cogito

ilovehouses wrote: »

No problem; you're welcome

Didn't see your reply due to having to scroll past all the dross that's been posted on here. I do despair at the quality of some of the posts by supporters of both sides.

cogito

Arklight wrote: »

Britain isn’t exactly legendary for the cleanliness of its public spaces now, and it was absolutely filthy before.

Baffled European tourists would recount going to beautiful nature spots, then watching British families pull up, eat a picnic, then dump all their trash and uneaten food on the ground before driving off.

I was in Berlin at New Year and couldn't believe how filthy it was. Try walking through any French city and you have to keep your eyes glued to the ground to avoid stepping in dog mess. Drive around rural Greece and be amazed at all the rubbish dumped at the side of the roads. Etc, etc, etc.

Rinoa

Arklight wrote: »

Britain isn’t exactly legendary for the cleanliness of its public spaces now, and it was absolutely filthy before.

Baffled European tourists would recount going to beautiful nature spots, then watching British families pull up, eat a picnic, then dump all their trash and uneaten food on the ground before driving off.

Welcome to Paris

Herzlos

Those tents imply that's not typical of Paris - was this a protest event or temporary village of some sort?

Theophile

Herzlos wrote: »

Those tents imply that's not typical of Paris - was this a protest event or temporary village of some sort?

Brits on a stag do?

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

Those tents imply that's not typical of Paris - was this a protest event or temporary village of some sort?

There was/is an issue in Paris of illegal immigrants setting up 'temporary accomodation in the streets'. I can't recall if this was the overflow from the Germany/Sweden situation or was a result of the 'Jungle' being closed down and those people not willing to be dispersed throughout France.

Rinoa

Tromking wrote: »

There was/is an issue in Paris of illegal immigrants setting up 'temporary accomodation in the streets'. I can't recall if this was the overflow from the Germany/Sweden situation or was a result of the 'Jungle' being closed down and those people not willing to be dispersed throughout France.

The illegal immigrants don't help, but in general it's a case of Paris citizens littering their capital.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20170704/paris-citys-crackdown-on-dirty-streets-sees-67-percent-rise-in-fines