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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5
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Why is this thread still discussing immigration. If we ever learn anything from Brexit, it will be that either the economy will decline due to us curtailing immigration or it will only grow if we accept the need for some immigration.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0
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I despise the sexist attitude that men have any obligation to women.
If my family were in a war zone, I would do everything in my power to get them out. I would certainly not be leaving them behind to fend for themselves, even if I could be fleeter of foot escaping without my disabled mother in tow. Most adults in my family would also lay down their own lives to ensure they got their children out alive.
If I was an economic migrant, I would happily go abroad for work and leave my family if it meant that I could provide for them better than staying in a country where there was no work.
So why did so many men turn up in Germany without their families?
It isn't about obligation, it's about family ties and doing what's best for your loved ones.Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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Are you sure? All Tory voters? (Little clue here, you would be very wrong if you say yes to the second question)
Grape Ape was commenting on my post where I said "As the Brexit vote showed there is a growing proportion of disaffected people who wanted change, a lot of younger people who feel that the economy is not serving them. "
Despite GA's mis-interpretation, my point was that a lot of people were disaffected by their life (by which I meant the wish to blame low pay, housing, health, and public services on the EU). At the same time many young people feel that the economy is mainly working others (the retired, the wealthier). This in my view a dangerous social trend not helped by saying any disadvantaged or vulnerable group are dysfunctional. But that is for another thread.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
We kind of have to pay up here; France doesn't want to keep them and we want to keep them out. Any border cuts will only hurt us.
With the exception of those who'll flock through France if It becomes common knowledge that it's easy to get into England. But even then, France is better dealing with the migrants on entry to France.
What incentive does France have to spend a cent on English border security?
That we can return them to France. Personally if France wants to surrender a little area of France for us to maintain a border post I cannot see why we would object.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
When we leave the EU will English cease to be an official EU language?Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0
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When we leave the EU will English cease to be an official EU language?
There was rumour of that at one point, but English is also an official language of Ireland.Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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Thrugelmir wrote: »English originated from within the EU......
Some time in the last 25 years then?0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Isn't the EU investigating UK deportations?
Are they? They didn't worry too much when the French deported thousands of Roma a few years ago.
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That we can return them to France. Personally if France wants to surrender a little area of France for us to maintain a border post I cannot see why we would object.
Why would France take non-EU migrants?
Why would we need a presence in Calais? If we don't pay France to do it in Calais then we'll need to do it in Dover.0
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