Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Moby

Does anyone know how it is possible for thr UK to leave the single market and customs union now we have signed up to full alignment?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Moby wrote: »

Does anyone know how it is possible for thr UK to leave the single market and customs union now we have signed up to full alignment?

Sure.

We leave, but agree to keep the same rules, same standards, same external tariffs, same regulations, same everything.

Then we call it something different to keep the masses happy.;)

cogito

Moby wrote: »

Does anyone know how it is possible for thr UK to leave the single market and customs union now we have signed up to full alignment?

As both the EU and the UK have agreed that the UK will leave both, why don't you ask them?

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

As Michael Gove suggests if anyone doesn't like the deal they can vote for a government that promises one they do.

Likewise the EU won't remain static indefinately.

buglawton

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Sure.

We leave, but agree to keep the same rules, same standards, same external tariffs, same regulations, same everything.

Then we call it something different to keep the masses happy.;)

I think that something like a 'phoney Brexit' will indeed exist for many years after 2019. Doesn't matter. I consider it to a the springboard from which the UK might one day jump to a genuine Brexit. Or... if the EU behaves well, even reforms itself, we might just stay as close as the Norway model. The number of years it takes could be a decade. Doesn't matter when you take the long view.

kabayiri

Eire might just change it's tune towards the EU when that nice Danish lady in the EU goes after their treatment towards Apple et al.

The country's days as a low tax rate EU member may become a thing of the past.

They can come join the UK outside the Union, and perhaps enjoy Guiness prices at £4 a pint, and not what you get charged in Dublin!

gfplux

kabayiri wrote: »

Eire might just change it's tune towards the EU when that nice Danish lady in the EU goes after their treatment towards Apple et al.

The country's days as a low tax rate EU member may become a thing of the past.

They can come join the UK outside the Union, and perhaps enjoy Guiness prices at £4 a pint, and not what you get charged in Dublin!

How much is Guiness in Dublin.

buglawton

Moby wrote: »

Does anyone know how it is possible for thr UK to leave the single market and customs union now we have signed up to full alignment?

Are you sure about that? I'm reading here in DT's detailed breakdown that in the joint text agreed on Friday, regulatory alignment was replaced by "no regulatory barriers". Only if the arrangement of "no regulatory barriers" were to break down, would it go to the backstop of "full regulatory alignment". Sounds like an important win for the UK to me.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

I think what Gove is trying to do is buying time to allow people time to heal and get over the divorce so they stop being overly concerned about what the ex is doing day to day.

The divorce may not be finalised until the parties have changed though. The ex may hold totally different views as well. In the interests of the (western/northern) EU members to reach an agreement.

posh*spice

The EU has many trade deals with msny countries- they all involved regulatory alignment- what they didnt involve was the country,say Canada or Japan, joining the SM or CU.

You don't need to be in theSM or CU to achieve regulatory alignment.