Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

homecleanncr

looking for some better level of discussion groups but still cant find them.

gfplux

LHW99 wrote: »

I think the IAEA is the organisation that deals (among other things) with medical isotopes, such as Mo and Tc which are produced in Australia, South Africa and (up to recently) Canada as well as Europe.
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/supplies-of-key-medical-isotopes-stable-but-vulnerabilities-remain
Euratom, which some sources quote in this connection deals with nuclear energy infrastructure and supply.
http://ec.europa.eu/programmes/horizon2020/en/h2020-section/euratom
Leaving Euratom could have consequences for sourcing / transporting reactor fuels, but we are a founder member of the IAEA so no reason for us to leave that under Brexit.

It sounds as if you know more about this issue.
What do you think about the report in the FT on 22 November 2017.
It is quite a long article and gives the impression that there is a big issue!!

https://www.ft.com/content/60ca2ebe-cf7a-11e7-b781-794ce08b24dc


"Time is running out to prevent patient care being harmed by disruption to supplies of radioactive isotopes used in cancer treatment after Britain leaves the EU, leading medics have warned."
"Dr Buscombe said hold-ups on isotope imports from Canada in the past had forced the cancellation of appointments for patients."

buglawton

phillw wrote: »

....More immigrants came from outside the EU, we purposefully didn't do anything about that.....

Exactly, The ones from outside had to jump through hoops set out by the immigration rules set by the UK government. Those rules may be too lenient for today's conditions, with the UK's infrastructure and housing groaning with the strain. But the UK govt can take responsibility and answer to a UK electorate about that.

Now, when it comes to immigration from very low wage countries within but on the edges of the EU, pre-Brexit the UK govt can do nothing - all rules are set by faraway EU mandarins and voted through by 28 countries that all have equal voting weight.

Herzlos

Grim news from the Daily Mail of all places:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5151193/David-Davis-says-Brexit-impact-like-2008-crash.html

The Brexit Secretary said quitting the Brussels club will amount to a 'paradigm change' comparable with the biggest financial slump since the Depression of the 1930s.

Mr Davis told the committee: 'You don't need to do a formal impact assessment to understand that if there is a regulatory hurdle between your producers and a market, there will be an impact.

Herzlos

buglawton wrote: »

Those rules may be too lenient for today's conditions, with the UK's infrastructure and housing groaning with the strain.

Then why doesn't it invest in infrastructure and housing?

But the UK govt can take responsibility and answer to a UK electorate about that.

But why doesn't it? Why ignore the issue they can control, and instead blame something that's less significant they also have a say in?

Herzlos

tracey3596 wrote: »

Is this from Politico a sign of what is to come if a deal is reached?
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-will-not-pay-lump-sum-brexit-bill-according-to-draft-eu-uk-brexit-agreement/

Strange isn't it how none of the remain back-slapping posse posted about this?
Too busy back-slapping and trying to insult others maybe.

No back slapping, I've only just seen this.

It seems like the most sensible option - we continue to pay our way whilst it's due, and eventually stop once we've detached. I'm pretty sure I suggested this last year.

Are the Brexiteers happy with the idea of still paying into the EU indefinitely?

Now we can move on to sorting out the Eire/NI border and citizens rights; should be able to bash them out in a few days.

Enterprise_1701C

phillw wrote: »

The UK Government didn't have the money to do anything about immigrants. They will have less money after brexit. Immigration is mostly an imagined problem.

Imagined :eek: Mass immigration has totally changed this country, on Sundays round here I barely hear an English word spoken in the local supermarkets, and we live in a small town not a big city, go to a local city any time of the day and there is plenty of places that you will not see a white face or hear an English word.

The NHS spends a fortune on translation services, and people coming to this country suddenly realise they don't have to pay to have babies, and actually get paid to have them, have you checked the immigrant birth rate?

There is a young woman selling Big Issue in the local town, I heard someone asking her why she was homeless, she answered in broken English that she came here to get given a home and they wouldn't give her one. That is what a lot of immigrants expect.

The country is groaning under the weight of immigration, and, apart from anything else, we only have limited resources, power stations are near capacity, we only have a certain amount of water to go around, the roads are packed, and we are letting poor drivers onto our roads, the amount of life ending and/or changing crashes I have heard of that are caused by Polish drivers is ridiculous, and yes, I know our people cause them too, but I get the impression the level of skill of Polish drivers is lower than the skill required here.

So no, it is not an imagined problem, it is a very real problem.

mayonnaise

mrginge wrote: »

Wow you’ve really got this covered mayo.

Thanks mrginge!

mrginge wrote: »

I am almost certain that the ‘average disaffected brexit voter’ will look at a few scraps of FoM concessions that we couldn’t get two years ago and think, yes that’s well worth 40bn quid.

The 40bn is not to settle future FoM arrangements. It's to cover our liabilities arising from leaving the EU.

Anyway, it won't be the average disaffected brexit voter who'll be paying it. It will be the productive side of society, entrepreneurs, risk takers, net tax payers. In other words: Remainers.
Furthermore, the average disaffected brexit voters lost interest. He/she's already been told less-than-white people won't be kicked out of the country en masse when (if) we leave, and that there won't be £350m per week extra for the NHS.

The average disaffected brexit voter's interest has moved back to what's up with Harry & Meghan and the next installment of Strictly.

Herzlos

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

go to a local city any time of the day and there is plenty of places that you will not see a white face or hear an English word.

I don't believe you in the slightest. I've visited cities with some of the largest concentration of Pakistani migrants (usually 2nd or 3rd generation) and outside of Asian supermarkets I see plenty of white faces and almost all of the conversation is in English.

The same for your local town. I don't believe you.

Plus, you're talking about non-whites - can you tell me which EU states all the migrants are coming from that aren't white?


Migrant birthrates are being migrants are more likely to have kids for whatever reason. If the reason was being in the UK the local birthrate would be higher.

You're also confirming that with the homeless statement that Migrants don't get houses, so that's also a myth.

As for the infrastructure - that's 100% the fault of the local government. Nothing you've said here sounds like it'll be fixed by leaving the EU.

mayonnaise

ilovehouses wrote: »

Pointing out a forecast of the future may not be accurate is to miss the point of what's going on here.

The braggard Davis has been boasting, posturing and swaggering.

Today he's been caught with his pants down yet again.

It'll be unbelievable if he's still in post by the end of the day.

Still in post and some Tories still seem to think he's PM material.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5083324/david-davis-plot-remove-replace-theresa-may-pm-prime-minister/