Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

andromedean

Private_Church wrote: »

Do you think the EU or UK Parliament give a t0ss about the poor who pay way over the odds for their electric and gas when forced to pay on a key/card meter?. Think about that for a moment.The poorest in Society paying a premium for their heating and light even though they pay upfront for their gas/electric and you think the EU cares more than London?.

So are you saying the EU should have MORE control over UK energy policy? As a general rule the EU doesn't rule on national issues that don't influence the wider European community. Surely energy pricing for the poor is something the UK should take responsibility for?

Private_Church wrote: »

I detest the UK Parliament for much that goes on their but at least we can get rid of them .

Well I voted for my Green MEP and he represents me in Europe, even though it's a strong Tory area, because it works by a type of proportional vote system. I have NEVER had any MP representing me at Westminster. Could you please tell me how to make my vote count at Westminster?

vivatifosi

Intriguing story in the Indie. Barnier (who ironically my tablet auto corrects to Barrier) seems to think that a part 1 deal is close, but the paper is very "does he, or doesn't he" about it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-sufficient-progress-michel-barnier-eu-next-few-days-estonia-a8078351.html

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Airbus boss says Brexit risks losing UK aviation's 'crown jewels' to China

UK operations chief tells MPs trade barriers and restricted movement for staff will put thousands of jobs in Wales at risk

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/21/airbus-boss-says-brexit-risks-losing-uk-aviations-crown-jewels-to-china

Herzlos

tracey3596 wrote: »

Did you deliberately miss the wording re: trying to?

Nope. I see lots of accusations of the EU punishing or trying to punish the UK, but I can't see it. I'm just asking one of those accusers to provide some detail. If it's so blatant then it shouldn't be hard to do.

Next, and allowing the EU to do so is fine according to you? Because in case you hadn't noticed, we run quite a trade deficit with the EU.
They really ought to be paying us for access.

Allowing the EU to do what is fine?

We buy more from the EU than they buy from us, granted, but what's that got to do with paying for access to markets? All of the infrastructure in the EU we take advantage of via market access doesn't come for free - someone has to do the work and spend the money, and since we make plenty out of it why shouldn't we contribute?

vivatifosi

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/21/airbus-boss-says-brexit-risks-losing-uk-aviations-crown-jewels-to-china

We did that story last week H.

It isn't great news, but also comes at a time that Emirates have failed to order any more A380s as they are worried that Airbus will cancel the project. However it is a bit chicken and egg, as they are the biggest customer by miles. Therefore if they dont order more, then that could lead to cancellation. There's a link to an article about that a few pages back.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

'This stinks of a cover-up': MPs are furious after the government releases redacted Brexit reports

The UK government has finally given MPs its secret Brexit reports, but has removed key details — prompting angry accusations of a "cover-up" by MPs.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/government-gives-mps-secret-brexit-reports-redacts-key-details-2017-11

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Hard Brexit would hit 142 Irish cross-border agreements

From heart surgery to special needs education to mobile phone charges, an EC and UK study has compiled a list of activities that will be hit

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/hard-brexit-would-hit-142-irish-cross-border-agreements

posh*spice

tracey3596 wrote: »

Another bit here from Ireland, this about jobs. Are the Irish beginning to realise that the EU will just ignore the impact on their country just to satisfy an EU desire to try and punish the UK?
https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/30000-jobs-in-meat-trade-will-be-lost-if-uk-exits-eu-without-deal-36355412.html

The Irish do indeed seem to be panicking- bet they wish they'd helped Cameron get Britain a better deal.

The more the Irish government are aggressive- the more the government is secure with the DUP in the confidence and supply agreement and let's be honest TM is not for turning. I think she's doing a great job.

posh*spice

And another thing back in the real world Brits aren't thinking about Brexit or the Irish border - Brits (and Americans) are fully focused on a Royal wedding and Royal baby.

Also, in other news, net migration figures for a full year from the ref Thursday.

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

We buy more from the EU than they buy from us, granted, but what's that got to do with paying for access to markets? All of the infrastructure in the EU we take advantage of via market access doesn't come for free - someone has to do the work and spend the money, and since we make plenty out of it why shouldn't we contribute?

Would you be specific about what is the infrastructure that we would be getting the benefit of. Someone (it might have been you) made this point a few days ago and although I asked this question, I didn't get an answer. I'm not trying to trip you up on this I'm genuinely curious to know what the advantages might be.