Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Gorgeous_George

Hope they don't forget that the EIB owes the UK a few quid.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-european-investment-bank-eib-britain-alexander-stubb-a8023516.html

GG

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

It sounds like he is talking about more than standards applying to the good you are trading.

It'll also include animal and worker welfare.

Herzlos

Gorgeous_George wrote: »

Hope they don't forget that the EIB owes the UK a few quid.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-european-investment-bank-eib-britain-alexander-stubb-a8023516.html

GG

Yup, £3.1bn as it comes back in. That's a rounding error compared to the cost of Brexit.

System

ukcarper wrote: »

It sounds like he is talking about more than standards applying to the good you are trading.

The days when goods were traded just on agreed product specifications are long behind us. The EU specify factory hygiene standards, the safety protocols even the wood the products get delivered on. Just like every other importing nation.

cogito

Of course it's obvious that there will have to be a maintenance of standards - noone has suggested otherwise and there will need to be ongoing discussions about how to meet them. But typically the EU appear to be acting in their usual dictatorial manner. We mustn't cut red tape.

Why the hell not when it adds hugely to the cost of doing business? Ask any farmer.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

Of course it's obvious that there will have to be a maintenance of standards - noone has suggested otherwise and there will need to be ongoing discussions about how to meet them. But typically the EU appear to be acting in their usual dictatorial manner. We mustn't cut red tape.

Why the hell not when it adds hugely to the cost of doing business? Ask any farmer.

You get that cutting red tape means a lowering of standards in almost every case?

Can you name some red tape we can cut without any change in standards?
Why didn't we get the eu yo remove it whilst we were a major player?

The main thing about leaving the EU is that we don't get to chose or modify the standards required to sell to the eu no matter how stupid or protectionist?

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

You get that cutting red tape means a lowering of standards in almost every case?

Can you name some red tape we can cut without any change in standards?
Why didn't we get the eu yo remove it whilst we were a major player?

The main thing about leaving the EU is that we don't get to chose or modify the standards required to sell to the eu no matter how stupid or protectionist?

So now we know that you think more red tape raises standards. Very good.

And since when were we a major player in the EU? They were perfectly happy with our money but our influence was pitiful.

Rinoa

Herzlos wrote: »

You get that cutting red tape means a lowering of standards in almost every case?

Can you name some red tape we can cut without any change in standards?
Why didn't we get the eu yo remove it whilst we were a major player?

The main thing about leaving the EU is that we don't get to chose or modify the standards required to sell to the eu no matter how stupid or protectionist?

Problem with EU red tape is that we follow it to the letter whilst the rest of Europe regularly ignores it.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

So now we know that you think more red tape raises standards. Very good.

And since when were we a major player in the EU? They were perfectly happy with our money but our influence was pitiful.

Red tape is rarely added for the hell of it. Some is redundant but not actually that much.

What red tape do you think we can get rid of by deciding animals can't feel pain?


We had plenty of influence in the eu; including a veto. We didn't get all that special treatment just for paying in.

Herzlos

Rinoa wrote: »

Problem with EU red tape is that we follow it to the letter whilst the rest of Europe regularly ignores it.

Then why not do something about that?