Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Arklight

Gorgeous_George wrote: »

If Brexit is so bad then the government are duty bound to avoid it at all costs. Just call me Dave decided an in/out vote was a price worth paying for the Conservatives to hold on to power.

i think that the EU is doomed. Any money paid by the UK to leave may sustain the bureaucrats for a little while longer but in the end failure is inevitable. Whether we remain or not.

GG

Yeah, you lot keep saying that and they keep unifying.

Europe was supposed to be two dozen countries that were putty in our hands by now. Except our own government is in tatters, we've lost passporting rights, the EU don't appear to care whether we trade with them or not and May has just rolled over and agreed a £40bn divorce bill as part of her taking back control Comical Ali assault.

At least the Express and Mail are full of comments like:

"Erope can shuv it we wun the war innit."

That'll show them.

Moby

http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/denis-macshane-banana-republic-1-5287685

Brexit is fast turning Britain into the laughing stock of the democratic world.

In the past, our politicians and journalists liked to mock Latin American or Mediterranean nations for their erratic, eccentric, extravagant politics with comic opera ministers and a deep strand of corruption obvious for all to see. But nothing today matches the tenors and sopranos of Brexit-dominated Westminister as they twist and turn in a wind of their own making, unable to make a decision or offer any way out of the maze they created.

There will be many doctoral theses in the future on the endless U-turns and contradiction on offer from Theresa May, David Davis, Boris Johnson and most other ministers.

Tromking

Moby wrote: »

http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/denis-macshane-banana-republic-1-5287685

I’m not sure a former Jailbird writing in a hopelessly pro-EU rag would be where I would take my pointers on the Brexit process.
I’m strangely reassured that extracating the UK from the EU is proving a torturous process. Our democracy in my opinion is holding up very well under the strain, lesser countries would have over ridden the referendum result by now for the sake political pragmatism or by some other act of political cowardice.

vivatifosi

Interesting article on the voting for the new HQ locations and the impact on the countries involved:

https://www.politico.eu/article/5-takeaways-from-the-race-to-host-eu-agencies-ema-eba-after-brexit/

Tromking

Interesting to read that Andrew Neil thinks that the political crisis in Germany is bigger than the current travails of the UK Government.
No pundit is infallible but I trust this man’s instincts more than most.

Herzlos

Private_Church wrote: »

The UK deactivation standard has worked well for years. The standard included grinding down the firing pin/bolt assembly at 45 degrees.Drill a hole in the barrel ,block and weld the said block in barrel. Then the weapon is sent to the London or Birmingham proof house where it is certificated.

Whilst I certainly wouldn't want to fire it afterwards, that sounds like most machine shops could restore it, or you just need to smuggle in a pin and a barrel. The smuggling angle is a concern I'd heard about before.
With the EU approach you may as well smuggle in the whole weapon.

It's a shame there's no grandfathering of the uk standard but it sounds like the eu standard is a lot more stringent.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

Game, set and match.

How so? It's about as obscure an example that it's possible to get and even then the eu red tape is am improvement. The uk gob could have just spend a few tens of grand re-certifying for people of that's the only red tape we can cut when we leave the eu

gfplux

With both the European Banking Agency leaving Britain for Paris and the European Medicines Agency going to Amsterdam Brexit is looking less and less that it can be reversed. Even if this disaster that is Brexit could be reversed I see that it would mean a damaged and poorer Britain taking a back seat at the EU table.
The quittlings have won but they may find the victory will be dust in their hands.
Those quitters who say walk away have not understood how disastrous this would be for Britain.
Both remainers and quittlings need to hope a deal can be worked out.

ukcarper

gfplux wrote: »

With both the European Banking Agency leaving Britain for Paris and the European Medicines Agency going to Amsterdam Brexit is looking less and less that it can be reversed. Even if this disaster that is Brexit could be reversed I see that it would mean a damaged and poorer Britain taking a back seat at the EU table.
The quittlings have won but they may find the victory will be dust in their hands.
Those quitters who say walk away have not understood how disastrous this would be for Britain.
Both remainers and quittlings need to hope a deal can be worked out.

Is it finally sinking in.? That what some of us have been saying for months.

gfplux

Another step away from Europe. Symbolic and sad.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/20/eurotunnel-rebrand-getlink-brexit-channel-tunnel

Eurotunnel now is GETLINK