Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

ben501

PDQ wrote: »

your "hoovers" (they are vacuum cleaners BTW; a "Hoover" is a brand)

Since this was the start of the disagreement, and possibly more interesting the official topic discussion for now, would it be a good time to remind that 'hoover' is widely recognised, at least in this country, as a generic noun for a vacuum cleaner, so nothing wrong with chucknorris' usage.

chucknorris

ben501 wrote: »

Since this was the start of the disagreement, and possibly more interesting the official topic discussion for now, would it be a good time to remind that 'hoover' is widely recognised, at least in this country, as a generic noun for a vacuum cleaner, so nothing wrong with chucknorris' usage.

Thanks, I am well aware that hoover is a brand name, but lazily, I do tend to refer to them as hoovers (as you suggest, I guess many others do too). Although it seems we (PDQ and myself) are no longer at loggerheads (common sense seems to have prevailed). Funnily enough 'hoovers' seem to have featured quite a bit in my discussions today, both in real life and online.

Sapphire

chucknorris wrote: »

Thanks, I am well aware that hoover is a brand name, but lazily, I do tend to refer to them as hoovers (as you suggest, I guess many others do too). Although it seems we (PDQ and myself) are no longer at loggerheads (common sense seems to have prevailed). Funnily enough 'hoovers' seem to have featured quite a bit in my discussions today, both in real life and online.

Hoovers: yes, I also use 'hoovers' as a blanket term (and will continue to do so), though I'm well aware that 'Hoover' is a brand name. I'll say, for instance, 'I hoovered my place today,' 'I must get the hoover out,' and so on.

This is a much more interesting discussion than the now repetitive OT one, with its entrenched positions. :T

chucknorris

Sapphire wrote: »

Hoovers: yes, I also use 'hoovers' as a blanket term (and will continue to do so), though I'm well aware that 'Hoover' is a brand name. I'll say, for instance, 'I hoovered my place today,' 'I must get the hoover out,' and so on.

This is a much more interesting discussion than the now repetitive OT one, with its entrenched positions. :T

I was trying to think of other such similar brands, but none sprung to mind, so I googled 'generic product names' and some of the ones that came up (as well as others) were, velcro, jet ski, taser, tupperware, band aid (probably more American, I tend to say elastoplast, also a brand, but that might just be me), post its, ouija board and PowerPoint.

gfplux

PDQ wrote: »

What on earth are you on about?
I'm sorry but your post is either ignorant or deceitful.

The GB£ was lower after putting forward Art.50 than it is now both v the !!!8364; and the US$ when it was !!!8364;1.11 or US$1.22 to the GB£, so saying it's still falling is a lie in't it?
We'll ignore the little fact that due to numerous reasons fluctuations in all currencies happen regardless of Brexit too, shall we?
Inflation never reached the peak you remainers told is it would reach and is in fact decreasing again.

As for shop closures, it has always been "survival of the fittest". Or maybe in your eyes the closure of Woolworths or Littlewoods stores was down to Brexit too?

You have not the faintest idea what makes me happy, although with respect I must admit that your blinkered responses did provoke a smile because you obviously have little idea of real life here in the UK at this moment in time. Generally the mood is positive. It's only really on forums like this where you see such anti-Brexit sentiment; generally folk just want it done with.

Any way more people holidaying at home is good for our economy and let's be honest, this year the weather could hardly be more conducive to a "staycation".
That would help explain why, as somebody else said earlier in the thread, the UK economy is powering ahead with record employment, continued growth and the lowest deficit for years.

Finally FYI I am happy thank you very much.
Only a few months into the year and our family is seeing record income and increasingly bright prospects. From what I see, we are not alone.

Thank you. You made my day. I will be walking the 100 meters to the beach this morning with an even bigger smile on my face.

phillw

PDQ wrote: »

to bananas (EC regulation 227/94 for those interested)

And for those who are actually interested, the EC standard was based on national standards that existed before we joined. They are there for our benefit, so that we know that if you buy a class A banana then it won't be rotten etc. Oh those darn eurocrats preventing us from buying a rotten class A banana.

I have to wonder the motives of anyone wishing to get rid of regulations such as this.

"A. Minimum requirements
In all classes, subject to the special provisions for each class and the
tolerances allowed, the bananas must be:
!!!8212; green and unripened,
!!!8212; intact,
!!!8212; firm,
!!!8212; sound; produce affected by rotting or deterioration such as to make it
unfit for consumption is excluded,
!!!8212; clean, practically free from visible foreign matter,
!!!8212; practically free from pests,
!!!8212; practically free from damage caused by pests,
!!!8212; with the stalk intact, without bending, fungal damage or dessication,
!!!8212; with pistils removed,
!!!8212; free from malformation or abnormal curvature of the fingers,
!!!8212; practically free from bruises,
!!!8212; practically free from damage due to low temperatures,
!!!8212; free from abnormal external moisture,
!!!8212; free from any foreign smell and/or taste.
In addition, hands and clusters (parts of hands) must include:
!!!8212; a sufficient portion of crown of normal colouring, sound and free
from fungal contamination,
!!!8212; a cleanly cut crown, not beveled or torn, with no stalk fragments.
The physical development and ripeness of the bananas must be such as
to enable them to:
!!!8212; withstand transport and handling,
and
!!!8212; arrive in satisfactory condition at the place of destination in order to
attain an appropriate degree of maturity after ripening.
B. Classification
Bananas are classified into the three classes defined below:
(i) !!!8216;Extra!!!8217; class
Bananas in this class must be of superior quality. They must have
the characteristics typical of the variety and/or commercial type.
The fingers must be free from defects, apart from slight superficial
blemishes not covering a total of more than 1 cm2 of the surface of
the finger, which must not impair the general appearance of the hand
or cluster, its quality, its keeping quality or the presentation of the
package.
(ii) Class I
Bananas in this class must be of good quality. They must display the
characteristics typical of the variety and/or commercial type.
1994R2257 !!!8212; EN !!!8212; 17.02.2006 !!!8212; 001.001 !!!8212; 4
!!!9660;B
However, the following slight defects of the fingers are allowed,
provided they do not impair the general appearance of each hand or
cluster, its quality, its keeping quality or the presentation of the
package:
!!!8212; slight defects in shape,
!!!8212; slight skin defects due to rubbing and other slight superficial
blemishes not covering a total of more than 2 cm2 of the surface
of the finger.
Under no circumstances may such slight defects affect the flesh of
the fruit.
(iii) Class II
This class covers bananas which do not qualify for inclusion in the
higher classes but satisfy the minimum requirements specified
above.
The following defects of the fingers are allowed, provided the
bananas retain their essential characteristics as regards quality,
keeping quality and presentation:
!!!8212; defects of shape,
!!!8212; skin defects due to scraping, rubbing or other causes, provided
that the total area affected does not cover more than 4 cm2 of the
surface of the finger.
Under no circumstances may the defects affect the flesh of the fruit.
III. SIZING
Sizing is determined by:
!!!9660;M2
!!!8212; the length of the fruit expressed in centimetres and measured along the
convex face, from the blossom end to the point where the peduncle joins
the crown,
!!!9660;B
!!!8212; the grade, i.e. the measurement, in millimetres, of the thickness of a
transverse section of the fruit between the lateral faces and the middle,
perpendicularly to the longitudinal axis.
The reference fruit for measurement of the length and grade is:
!!!8212; the median finger on the outer row of the hand,
!!!8212; the finger next to the cut sectioning the hand, on the outer row of the
cluster.
The minimum length permitted is 14 cm and the minimum grade permitted
is 27 mm."

PDQ wrote: »

That's the point, nobody knows. Those trying to say we will be worse of because of X,Y & Z are lying because they do not know - and they do say "we will", not "we might". There are many factors besides Brexit which will affect the UK's future.

If only the world was so black and white. We do know we will be worse off, it's just impossible to put that into an exact figure of pounds and pence. When you look at the kind of people driving brexit, then it's impossible we will personally be better off.

gfplux

I posted the following many months if not years ago.
Nothing has changed.

QUOTE
Britain has embarked on the difficult, complex, painful, arduous, backbreaking, demanding, hard, formidable, herculean, rigorous, testing, intricate, exhausting and distressing process of leaving the EU. It's called Brexit to make it sound easy.
END QUOTE

gfplux

Just searching for the Brexit dividend banked on behalf of Britain and it is still missing!

1) Medicines Agency banked by the EU
2) Banking Agency banked by the EU
3) Loads of money banked by currency traders
4) Loads of money banked by iro
5) Euro earning tourists Banking their saved holiday spending


Not one Brexit dividend banked by Britain or the British people except iro

gfplux

Looking for the benefits of Brexit for Britain and British people and it is also missing.

Unless of course you like promises and phrases like....
Britain will throw off the yoke of Brussels
Britain will make its own laws (have you looked at those lawmakers in Westminster lately)
Britain will negotiate free trade deals in a blink of an eye.

Have I missed any?

Just tell me or anyone where is the advantage to Britain and its people in Brexit?
Just a simple list will do.
Thanks

phillw

PDQ wrote: »

Totally unlike Barmier, Drunkers, Verhofstadt and Tsk-Tsk who are all so honorable I suppose?
Or unlike Soubry, Abbott or Corbyn?
Right.
:wall:

I agree with you, the British people are too dumb to elect decent politicians.

Juncker, Tusk, Barnier and Verhofstadt seem much better, they might even be able to improve education so you could spell their names correctly. Or was it some attempt to dehumanise them by misspelling their name?