Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Moby

Lornapink wrote: »

Who coached Obama in the fake trade 'queue' manipulation?
Are u ok with our PM colluding with a foreign power?

The point Im making is the right accused Obama of interfering in internal British affairs...... now do you accept that is what Trump was doing and to a far higher level?
By the way Mueller is getting warmer. Not long now before he exposes the collusion between the Trump team and the dictator Putin to subvert the election result. We could yet see Trump impeached.:)

kabayiri

gfplux wrote: »

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Trump treating Britain like a tin pot island. This is not an ally Britain deserves but one Britain may need as it turns its back on Europe.

Well, duh, it's only a continuation of what has been happening for at least a generation now.

We've sold off much of the utilities and other lucrative business. It's a little bit late to complain about UK being hollowed out now.

A company like Kraft didn't really need the Cadbury workers. They wanted the brand name.

A lot of this has happened whilst inside this precious EU. The reality is that the EU wasn't going to stop any of this change.

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

I watched the May and Trump press conference live.
Well actually half watched as I was hiding behind the Sofa.

Trump treating Britain like a tin pot island. This is not an ally Britain deserves but one Britain may need as it turns its back on Europe.

The irony of a Luxembourger's use of the 'tin pot' jibe will not be lost on many I suggest.
I too watched the Trump/May presser and I thought (for once) TM came out with a modicum of credit. Not for the first time your personal annoyance over Brexit is tending to inhibit your ability to comment sensibly.

cogito

Extraordinary article in the Torygraph this morning.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/07/14/airbus-fury-loss-raf-deal-brexit-warning/

Paywalled but the first two paragraphs which are readable give the gist. The allegation is that Remainer ministers within the government prompted Airbus to issue dire warnings about the effect of Brexit upon them. Airbus are now cheesed off that the RAF have given a £2bn order to Boeing instead of them.

Remainers believe that the Leave campaign carried out dirty tricks in the run up to the referendum but it seems that they are not above pulling a few dirty tricks themselves. Nothing new there.

Moby

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/14/brexit-britain-out-of-options-humiliation-painful

Good article explaining where we now are.

The Trump visit ought to be a moment of national awakening. Instead, it has been a national humiliation. A government and an opposition with an ounce of self-respect would have responded to Trump!!!8217;s ultimatum that he would not allow a trade deal unless we delivered the Brexit he wanted by reassessing our decision to leave the EU. A Conservative party that still respected itself and the country would have revolted at the impertinence of the leader of an increasingly hostile foreign power telling them to see Boris Johnson as !!!8220;a great prime minister!!!8221;.

Instead, Theresa May!!!8217;s government allowed the special relationship to become an abusive relationship. Like a battered wife lying to the police, it pretended that Trump had not insulted May and that a trade deal would go ahead and then waited for a pathological liar to lie that he had never said what he had said, on the record and on tape.

StevieJ

Moby wrote: »

The point Im making is the right accused Obama of interfering in internal British affairs...... now do you accept that is what Trump was doing and to a far higher level?
By the way Mueller is getting warmer. Not long now before he exposes the collusion between the Trump team and the dictator Putin to subvert the election result. We could yet see Trump impeached.:)

Looks like they want Yaxley-Lennon 'treated more sympathetically ' now.

Brownback raised the case of the activist known as Tommy Robinson in a June meeting with Sir Kim Darroch, Britain’s Ambassador to the United States, according to a British official and two sources close to the organizers of a pro-Robinson demonstration planned for London on Saturday.

Brownback raised the jailing of Robinson during a meeting with Darroch that covered a range of “religious freedom issues”, the British official confirmed earlier this week.

Brownback told Darroch that if Britain did not treat Robinson more sympathetically, the Trump administration might be compelled to criticize Britain’s handling of the case, according to the two sources in contact with organizers of the planned pro-Robinson demonstration.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-britain-robinson/trumps-ambassador-lobbied-britain-on-behalf-of-jailed-right-wing-activist-tommy-robinson-idUSKBN1K331J

Tromking

Off the back of the Chequers white paper, Labour race into a 4 point lead in the polls. Tories now only 3 percentage points away from the mystical 33% share of the vote ‘wipeout’ zone.
Something has to give.

Moby

StevieJ wrote: »

Looks like they want Yaxley-Lennon 'treated more sympathetically ' now.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-britain-robinson/trumps-ambassador-lobbied-britain-on-behalf-of-jailed-right-wing-activist-tommy-robinson-idUSKBN1K331J

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gerard-batten-ukip-mohamed-!!!!!phile-tommy-robinson-protests-muslims-a8447741.html......
And the new leader of UKIP is showing the way ahead for this country:eek:

Moby

Tromking wrote: »

Off the back of the Chequers white paper, Labour race into a 4 point lead in the polls. Tories now only 3 percentage points away from the mystical 33% share of the vote ‘wipeout’ zone.
Something has to give.

Tromking it seems the Chequers deal was supposed to unite the cabinet and Tory party. Instead it has united almost all wings of the Brexit debate behind the view that it would deliver the worst of all possible worlds.

Thrugelmir

Tromking wrote: »

Off the back of the Chequers white paper, Labour race into a 4 point lead in the polls. Tories now only 3 percentage points away from the mystical 33% share of the vote !!!8216;wipeout!!!8217; zone.
Something has to give.

We all know how accurate polls are these days. What's Labour's plans for Brexit? We had a barrage of political gamesmanship (oppose everything) but little substance. Labour need to focus on the far bigger picture. Or eventually there'll simply be left looking stupid. As currently this isn't an election campaign.