Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Moby

Tromking wrote: »

Trump won’t give a stuff about that, he talks directly to electorates, it’s what populists do.

He talks directly to people who already agree with him at campaign rallies. In this country he's been airlifted everywhere and has met no-one who has not been screened. Such a populist. Jeremy Corbyn can walk the streets of his own country without a protection detail. He can speak to people openly, without 6 inches of blast proof glass inbetween him and them. Trump has needed the protection of huge helicopters carrying his huge bullet proof car which he used to drive a few hundred yards from where he landed to Blenheim Palace. He's need the most expensive police operation this country has ever seen and those officers have been given camp beds crammed into gyms to rest on while they are not on duty. We are a laughing stock to pander to this egotist.

Filo25

Moby wrote: »

You do know he'd been coached by Farage about what to say to the Sun?

Didn't the ERG supposedly have a recent meeting with John Bolton as well, I doubt there was anything spontaneous about the attempts to undermine the PM.

LHW99

What did your local MEP and your MP have to say about all these restrictions that were holding you back. If they were very important you must have spent a lot of time putting your case.

Just come across another example from a customer today, which causes a significant time delay to a project and notable additional expense.
It is our customers call how to proceed, or not, once they know the issues. We are bound by confidentiality clauses.

buglawton

LHW99 - could you let us all know what you are quoting from? Otherwise your comment looks a bit random as in 'what is he talking about'.

Thrugelmir

Filo25 wrote: »

Didn't the ERG supposedly have a recent meeting with John Bolton as well, I doubt there was anything spontaneous about the attempts to undermine the PM.

Trump is now very predictable. Soften up your counter party prior to any meeting. Put them on the back foot. North Korea, China, EU, Nato, Brexit the list goes on............

Though there are very obvious concerns from a US perspective with parts of the proposals. Companies will find a way to circumnavigate them.

Herzlos

buglawton wrote: »

LHW99 - could you let us all know what you are quoting from? Otherwise your comment looks a bit random as in 'what is he talking about'.

I asked him for some details on the EU regs that hurt his/customers business but are purely protectionism.

Confidentiality clauses understandable means he can sort of, but not in a way I can read the regs in question. Which is fair enough, I'm NDA'd up to the ears too.

Arklight

Moby wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-papers-44815965

I see the egotist is helping May out by telling her a trade deal is a non starter with him if she sticks to her plans and how Boris would make a very good PM. How can May possibly endure such lack of respect and open derision for her?
I remember Obama being told to keep his nose out when he advised us to stay in the EU a couple of years ago. I remember Boris saying that Obama probably hated this country because of his Kenyan heritage. I'm sure Farage and Boris will be standing up to Trump and calling him out for embarrassing his host...... after all these men care about the dignity of this country so much.......
Or is the new reality of us as a supplicant turning a deaf year to the insults pleading at the table for the favours of the biggest bully on the block going to continue. The Germans and French will be noting what we are becoming.

Donald Trump is a US president and like all the others he expect his vassals to do what they are told. Most British governments and definitely all the Tory ones have fallen over themselves to accommodate the US in the past.

Theresa May however hasn't done quite what she's told therefore he wants her replaced with someone more loyal.

The fascinating thing of course is that this kind of thing isn't usually broadcast for the world to see.

How are little englanders going to react after all their foot stamping about bringing back control, when they see the US president basically trying to depose a British Prime Minister.

On the one hand Trump wants the UK completely out of the purview of Brussels and it's awful human rights, minimum wages, and environmental laws, and yoked to inhuman US corporatism and populist xenophobia - which is exactly what the little englanders want.

But on the other hand, some of then quite like Mrs May, and like to think she's in charge of them, alongside the Queen, and the Donald is kind of trampling all over that.

Awful dilemma for them.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

The radicals will paint anything except WTO as a sell out. But we can't allow a few nutjobs to dictate the majority. What do people actually want?

'Mother of all deals' with the USA.

We get fantastic access to the globally dominant USA companies.

We in turn help them out with the Mexican refugee crisis. Hamish is happy...he can have lots of fertile Mexican people up there in Scotland with him.

We form NATO 2.0 with USA, and ditch the EU defence underfunders. If they want to join, the entry price is a smidge over £39bn (that's our cut).

We sell NI to China; they won't put up with this religious nonsense, and everyone over there ends up with super cheap smartphones.

That's a start anyway. Thanks for asking

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

... in a kind of unpredictable random way.

Not random at all. All with the same objective. He has little to no interest in other countries affairs except where it impacts the USA in some manner. Particularly trade and American jobs. Trump has no time for politics. Approaches everything as if he was running a business (American style).

mrginge

ilovehouses wrote: »

The government are in chaos and so are the Tories as a whole. The hard brexit mob aren't the calm in the storm. They're having to react to events day by day too - there's no finessed plan and they have no control over timings.

This is a proxy leadership play and it's been on since the GE - not only does a hatchet need to be delivered to May's back but they've got to do the same to each other.

Could we perhaps tempt you into providing a potential name who you think can save us from this chaos?