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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5
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What does EU produce that we couldn't get from somewhere else.
EU produced goods.;)“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
What does EU produce that we couldn't get from somewhere else.
Without putting any thought into it:
Beer & wine. I do realise that these are also produced elsewhere but they are different. Non European lager isn’t generally to the palate of Brits. To the best of my knowledge Guinness is no longer brewed in the UK.
Many cheeses. I’ve tried English Brie, for example. Only once though.
Perishables such as tomatoes. I always try to buy my tomatoes from Thanet Earth as they’re local and actually taste far superior to most European tomatoes but they can’t provide for the whole country. Perhaps they can be imported from outside the EU but I’d have thought that the quality would deminish on long journeys. I’m not pretending to know on this subject, though. I’m just surmising.0 -
Without putting any thought into it:
Beer & wine. I do realise that these are also produced elsewhere but they are different. Non European lager isn’t generally to the palate of Brits. To the best of my knowledge Guinness is no longer brewed in the UK.
Many cheeses. I’ve tried English Brie, for example. Only once though.
Perishables such as tomatoes. I always try to buy my tomatoes from Thanet Earth as they’re local and actually taste far superior to most European tomatoes but they can’t provide for the whole country. Perhaps they can be imported from outside the EU but I’d have thought that the quality would deminish on long journeys. I’m not pretending to know on this subject, though. I’m just surmising.
No exactly staples people will have to adjust what they buy or pay more. I'm sure it's possible to sauce most vegetables outside EU. I wonder what Spanish farmers make of potentially losing a large market.0 -
More specificallyHAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »EU produced goods.;)0 -
Many things Brit's have become used to buying as a matter of course, that meet our expectations of quality and are our preferred products to consume, are only produced in the EU... German cars, French wines, Italian foods, Belgian beers, or whatever.
That has come about because the EU is our largest trading partner and closest neighbour, and we are in the single market, so no import duties or friction at borders.
You could of course buy a Korean car instead of a German one, or buy Canadian Cheese, or American wine, or Mexican beer.
But that all seems rather pointless when we already have frictionless trade with our closer neighbour that produces all these things we want and need.
Better to just keep a similar trading arrangement to what we have now.
Which also protects all the exports of UK goods to our largest export market, the EU, along with the hundreds of billions of inwards investment and job creation dependent upon that market.
A win-win situation for society, even if it does mean we have to face down the Brextremists who'd rather crash us out of the EU with no deal....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
No exactly staples people will have to adjust what they buy or pay more. .
Yes of course, as many of us warned, a no deal Brexit would lead to people paying more or having to buy inferior goods.
But that's not what they were promised by the Brexiteers....
They were told the EU would be the supplicant, begging us for access to our markets, willing to give us all of the benefits with none of the costs in the "easiest trade deal of all time".
Which was always nonsense, and this is becoming clearer by the day.
No wonder public support for Brexit is sinking rapidly.
“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
No exactly staples people will have to adjust what they buy or pay more. I'm sure it's possible to sauce most vegetables outside EU. I wonder what Spanish farmers make of potentially losing a large market.
These are things off the top of my head but you’re right that we can live without them. People can get used to drinking American lager I suppose.
It’s good that we’re back to the ‘they need us more than we need them’ argument. It doesn’t seem to have had an effect on German car manufacturers up to now, having been repeatedly predicted by so many Brexiteers, but maybe the Spaniards will be different.0 -
It’s good that we’re back to the ‘they need us more than we need them’ argument. It doesn’t seem to have had an effect on German car manufacturers up to now, having been repeatedly predicted by so many Brexiteers, but maybe the Spaniards will be different.
The German car manufacturers already stated clearly that trade with the UK was less important to their strategic future than preserving the integrity of the much bigger and more important Single Market.
The Spaniards will say the same thing.
As will they all.
Preserving the integrity of the single market is the top priority for the EU and EU businesses. It's just vastly larger and more important than the UK.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
You see you are looking at everything from your point of view I didn't say they need us more than we need them but it will impact certain sectors of EU more than others.These are things off the top of my head but you’re right that we can live without them. People can get used to drinking American lager I suppose.
It’s good that we’re back to the ‘they need us more than we need them’ argument. It doesn’t seem to have had an effect on German car manufacturers up to now, having been repeatedly predicted by so many Brexiteers, but maybe the Spaniards will be different.0 -
You can trot that out as much as you want it's irrelevant and most of the people I know who voted to leave were not that concerned about it.HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Yes of course, as many of us warned, a no deal Brexit would lead to people paying more or having to buy inferior goods.
But that's not what they were promised by the Brexiteers....
They were told the EU would be the supplicant, begging us for access to our markets, willing to give us all of the benefits with none of the costs in the "easiest trade deal of all time".
Which was always nonsense, and this is becoming clearer by the day.
No wonder public support for Brexit is sinking rapidly.
I believe the polls are now 52/48 in favour of remain so not a huge change and as we have all seen polls are far from accurate.0
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