Best way to protect your child?

clairec79

I have 15 and 16 year old girls, the first few times they went on a bus I was concerned (was a few years back - I think they were 13/14 the first time I let them do it alone) - they had to text when they got where they were going and when they were on the bus on the way home (so I could judge when/if I needed to panic), now they tell me when they will be home and only message me if that changed - if this were a late night bus I may feel differently, but usually they are only getting public transport in day time hours (up to tea time ish)

alwaysskint96

My 13 year old son has been getting a train to and from school including a change a couple of days a week when he stays at his dads. He also gets a bus across town to meet friends. We started the practise runs on the train when he was year 6 in primary. Doesnt think anything of it

Mupette

This is a post about how the OP needs to get their teen to use public transport.

a few years back watching a program about 18 year old's house sharing and learning to stand on their own two feet.

One female refused to flush the toilet after using it, said her mum did that for her :eek: seriously, that's normal now is it.
Nope young lady get back in their and flush your s**t.

So how many flush the loo for their teens.. be honest.

not about teens getting signed up for war. This is about the parent lacking in parental duties to prepare their teens for the real world.

Red-Squirrel_2

Mupette wrote: »

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One female refused to flush the toilet after using it, said her mum did that for her :eek: seriously, that's normal now is it.

I really don't think that's normal.

Kynthia

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

I really don't think that's normal.

If it was normal it wouldn't have been entertainment. These were extreme examples where parents had done literally everything and spoilt their children. Now their children were so bad that they wanted to shock them into changing. I'm sure there always have been and always will be extremes.

Some differences are due to environment rather than being "snowflakes". A teenager in a big city will almost certainly be experienced in buses and tube travel compared to someone living in the countryside where buses are infrequent and rarely go where you need when you need. However they will be more experienced with nature, wildlife and probably dressing appropriately for the elements. Just like someone living by the sea will be more experienced with its dangers than someone further inland.

ska_lover

Mupette wrote: »

So how many flush the loo for their teens.. be honest.

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I find it hard to believe that anyone would flush the toilet for their teenager - unless they had some kind of disability. I would say this was probably hammed up a bit for T.V


It is not just about the parents doing it, it is about the teenager having no boundaries or dignity


Crazy, and I'm excited to see if anyone admits to this!

ska_lover

Mupette wrote: »

not about teens getting signed up for war. This is about the parent lacking in parental duties to prepare their teens for the real world.

Looking at the bigger picture ..........we have gone from 18 year olds being classed as man enough to fight for their country, to teenagers not being able to flush the toilet , in the space of three/four generations - its entirely relevant, and worrying - from both ends of the scale. It is extremely relevant, the society we have created and the fear and anxiety parents face as a result of this


Something has gone wrong somewhere, Parenting has gone very wrong and this, being the root cause of these 'snow flakes' really needs looking at - why some of the older generation (parents) have created a limp wristed bunch, and why they insist on ridiculing them for becoming what they have made them be

I think its entirely relevant how things have changed and why teenagers are wrapped up in cotton wool to a sickening degree that it ruins their lives with no life skills whatsoever

Can you imagine if WW3 kicked off and they brought back conscription?

maman

ska_lover wrote: »

''How have we voted to allow more people into the country exactly? I don't vote labour or tory'' - because we are in a democracy and majority vote rules,

Sorry have only dipped into the thread, since answering OP's original question, but this jumped out at me.


I agree that we have a form of democracy but it's different from almost everywhere else in Europe (I believe Vatican City may be the only other).


It's perfectly possible in our system for parliamentary elections for the majority to vote for a certain colour of government but get the total opposite.


First past the post of the total electorate would seem fairer.


And surely to go with a tiny majority (e.g. Brexit) on such a fundamental question is madness. If someone said to you they were dithering about whether to change their car or buy a dress or whatever you'd tell them to hang fire until they were sure?

onomatopoeia99

ska_lover wrote: »

I don't really like it as a generalization, It is a cruel put down - by the older generation, but IMO somehow it fits the bill perfectly as many 18 year olds seem far from being the self sufficient adult, than their parents generation would have been expected to be.

We have done it to them. When I was 18, 30 years ago, a fair number of my contemporaries had already been in work for two years, many more were joining them at 18 and a few like me were going to university. Of course you can't leave school in the term you turn 16 to take up full time employment now, you have to remain in training to 18, and it seems many get dragged into longer courses, as well as the massive expansion of the university sector that has taken place in the last 20 years.

So now we have a generation where they are likely to be at uni or on an apprenticeship at the end of their teens, not earning enough to live independently and likely to still be with their parents for years to come. They aren't being given the opportunity to be adults, and it's down to government and social policy (if they're in education, they're not in the unemployment figures) and we voted it. Teenagers are being infantilized and it's our fault.

badmemory

maman wrote: »

And surely to go with a tiny majority (e.g. Brexit) on such a fundamental question is madness. If someone said to you they were dithering about whether to change their car or buy a dress or whatever you'd tell them to hang fire until they were sure?

Exactly - If only Cameron hadn't been such a conceited * (sorry can't find a word for him that would pass the censor) he would have made sure there were some t & cs in place.

Unfortunately he was so convinced it couldn't happen he didn't bother. He blamed the EU for everything from 2010 on & then acted surprised when too many of the general public believed him. All this fiasco has done for me is confirm me in the opinion that if a politician has his mouth open he's lying.

I believe that they are blaming the retired (which is certainly against my personal evidence) so that they can slash benefits & state pensions (when it all hits the fan) & no one will complain too much.