Best way to protect your child?

cloudy-day

Mupette wrote: »

A generation of snowflakes, mollycoddled, never had to do anything for themselves because over anxious parents did everything (i mean everything) for them.

These snowflakes are now in the workplace causing havoc for everyone else with their meltdowns because they don't want to do any work, they just want to chat to their mates on snap chat all day.

When are parents going to wake up and realise that wrapping up their children in cotton wool has destroyed their child.

It's ok to want to protect your child, but there is protecting and over bearing, you just need to identify which one you are.

There has been drugs and knives around, even before i was born in the late 60's.

We teach our children to be safe, how to deal with situations, a child needs to make mistakes to learn from them.

Yes our little darlings are precious, everyone thinks their own are more precious than anyone else.

Children are not as fragile as you think they are, unless you projected your own issues on them all their life, in that case you have yourself to blame.

God I hate the term 'snowflakes'.


I work with many teenagers and young people in their 20's. Yes some are problematic, but no more so than other colleagues.


Reminds me of my Dad in the 70's watching TOTPs asking 'Is that a boy or a girl, can't tell with all that long hair'!


Mupette you win today's Victor Meldrew award for the Old at Heart!

ska_lover

Mojisola wrote: »

It wasn't optional but that doesn't mean that most parents were happy to see their teenagers being sent off to war.

I am sure there was massive heartbreak all around, but that would be an entirely different topic

Mojisola

ska_lover wrote: »

I am sure there was massive heartbreak all around, but that would be an entirely different topic

It's not such a different subject - there were parents who tried to work the system to keep their sons at home - claiming health problems, etc.

Were those young men 'snowflakes' because their parents tried to keep them safe?

ska_lover

cloudy-day wrote: »

God I hate the term 'snowflakes'.

I don't really like it as a generalization, It is a cruel put down - by the older generation, but IMO somehow it fits the bill perfectly as many 18 year olds seem far from being the self sufficient adult, than their parents generation would have been expected to be. Its really a vicious circle though and one inflicted on the younger gen not neccesarily their fault at all


As an example, When I was in my mid 20s, I didn't know anyone else my age, who was still living with their parents ..........However it is the older generation who had it far easier, as per Corbyns speech today, the younger gen cannot get social housing due to the huge over crowding that we have happily kept voting to allow more people into the country, and therefore the younger gen are paying higher rents on the private market, than ever before so we are setting them up for a failure really and then name calling them for doing exactly that - really we should be giving our kids, the younger generation, the same chances that we had, but they have it FAR harder than we did

ska_lover

Mojisola wrote: »

It's not such a different subject - there were parents who tried to work the system to keep their sons at home - claiming health problems, etc.

Were those young men 'snowflakes' because their parents tried to keep them safe?

Would you like to intelligently explain how you can compare sending young men off to war and potential death or injury, to be in any way the same subject as a 16 year old getting the bus to college?

Mojisola

ska_lover wrote: »

You are 'correcting' me to mean something that I didn't intend or attempt to say.

Society in general, how we were happy to send our kids off to fight awful battles a few generations back,

ska_lover wrote: »

Would you like to intelligently explain how you can compare sending young men off to war and potential death or injury, to be in any way the same subject as a 16 year old getting the bus to college?

You said that previous generations were 'happy' to send their kids off to war - I don't believe that's true.

I wasn't comparing sending a son to war with a modern child catching a bus.

ska_lover

Mojisola wrote: »

You said that previous generations were 'happy' to send their kids off to war - I don't believe that's true.

I wasn't comparing sending a son to war with a modern child catching a bus.

Revert to post 63, thanks

annandale

There's a lack of social housing due to previous governments refusing to invest in it. Labour ran Scotland for ten years. They built a pathetic number of council properties.

There was also right to buy, which has ended in Scotland.

How have we voted to allow more people into the country exactly? I don't vote labour or tory. Freedom of movement exists. And in my area at least refugees have been settled into homes that local people turned down.

People can't get social housing due to lack of investment in social housing and not enough housing being built to replace the ones that were sold to tenants.

What on earth any of this has to do with sending a 16 year old on a bus I don't know.

Fireflyaway

I think its natural to be worried about your children no matter what their age. I'm assuming its a public bus? Let her practice the route / go with her on a trial run.
Ensuring she has a mobile and money in case the bus doesn't show up and has the number of a taxi on her contact list.
I don't think the bus is such an issue, its being outside but I'm assuming there will be plenty of folks around. Ensure she walks a safe route - no short cuts down alleys / across the park etc!

ska_lover

annandale wrote: »

There's a lack of social housing due to previous governments refusing to invest in it. Labour ran Scotland for ten years. They built a pathetic number of council properties.

There was also right to buy, which has ended in Scotland.

How have we voted to allow more people into the country exactly? I don't vote labour or tory. Freedom of movement exists. And in my area at least refugees have been settled into homes that local people turned down.

People can't get social housing due to lack of investment in social housing and not enough housing being built to replace the ones that were sold to tenants.

What on earth any of this has to do with sending a 16 year old on a bus I don't know.

All of these things have huge effects on parents relaxing about letting their teenagers out, with rising crime levels and the fact that violent crime is the highest it has ever been - that is the point I was trying to make - all these things tie in and are no coincidence - desperate times, many people do not even have secure stable homes, a mere basic for most of us - these things all relate to society and the cost of housing is what most people spend the largest proportion of their salary on, it has the ability to make or break a household and cause some financially desperate people


''How have we voted to allow more people into the country exactly? I don't vote labour or tory'' - because we are in a democracy and majority vote rules, and the majority keep voting in certain ways - or there will be an outcry like when the photo of the dead boy on the beach was released and people were petitioning to allow these people in, majority rule and loudest voice wins - may not be something you agree with personally - that is a democracy . Like Brexit, only just over 50% voted FOR


I agree with your point about lack of social housing, but again, this is what we (as a majority ) have voted for, its not all down to lack of investment, the sheer amount of people outweigh the properties even available . We have added hundreds a huge number of extra people, and removed a huge number of available homes. In my city I have never heard of people turning down council properties they would be like gold dust and viewed as mad if you did so, as even in a rough area, a private rent of £750 a month for a two bed, whereas the next door neighbors on council are paying £325 a month - a real massive difference


All these things are massively important into the kind of society we have now, the fact that our kids now have to struggle for things that came easily to us. The fact that crime is through the roof, hence peoples fear of crime. Cultures changed, and a lot of young people carry weapons. People get stabbed to death every day of the week in the UK these days - and these facts are why people are so scared of their kids going out and about, its awful


These are only my opinions though