UKCPS "court recovery action" threat

splodge2018

Hi Guys,

So I was issued a ticket on 12th June from UKCPS.

After advice I had ignored their letters but have now received a letter which say if I don’t respond within 14 days they will “commence legal action”.

The letter also starts off with "Letter before court claim"

Now is this still a threat or should I bite the bullet and pay the fine?

Thank you all

Umkomaas

It's not a 'fine'.

We wouldn't recommend paying it unless a judge tells you that you must. If the LBCCC letter has come from UKCPS then treat as such and reply using a suitable response from the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #2, where there are links to examples.

If it's from a debt collector like DRP, Zenith, ZZPS or their ilk, then it can be ignored.

beamerguy

Peter_James_Foster wrote: »

Hi Guys,

So I was issued a ticket on 12th June from UKCPS.

After advice I had ignored their letters but have now received a letter which say if I don’t respond within 14 days they will “commence legal action”.

The letter also starts off with "Letter before court claim"

Now is this still a threat or should I bite the bullet and pay the fine?

Thank you all

UKCPS will use the useless incompetent Gladstones solicitors
to issue a court claim
Is the letter from UKCPS or Gladstones ???

The point is, do you want to pay a scammer ?
We say NO because you can beat them

Firstly read this carefully
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5712763

There are big changes in The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims
commencing 1st Oct 2017.
This means that bringing a claim, they have to jump through
hoops that they don't have to now

So, is this a letter from UKCPS or Gladstones ???

splodge2018

Hi guys,

Thanks for the response.

You're right it's not a fine and the letter is from UPCPS

thanks,

beamerguy

Peter_James_Foster wrote: »

Hi guys,

Thanks for the response.

You're right it's not a fine and the letter is from UPCPS

thanks,

Then write back either by email or letter. If a letter, not recorded,
just get proof of posting from the post office

You deny any debt to UKCPS and require proof of their claim

You are the keeper and not the driver

Is that your real name ???

beamerguy

NO ..... please delete all of that

You just need to deny any debt and require proof of their claim

Are you understanding the point made about the new
protocol on the 1st Oct ?

Once they have provided proof then come back here

Umkomaas

Have you read through that copy and paste? Did a passenger in the car have a heart condition? What else is wrong - plenty I've spotted!

While that style of response will be the type to use, you must make sure that whatever you copy and paste relates to your case and you have researched any references in it (like those to PoFA, the CPR etc) and you have some understanding of what you've written.

Don't forget, if this does progress to court, your response to the LBCCC will be read by a judge before the hearing. You don't want him/her making a pre-hearing presumption that you are just copying and pasting any old internet template without understanding what it is you are purporting to have written yourself - it might well colour the judge's impression regarding other eventual essentials like your defence and witness statement.

nosferatu1001

Especially as you havent even bothered to change it to the correct PPC.

nosferatu1001

gah! edit your post!
NEVER identify the driver.

No, youre doing as told - denying the debt, and require copies of all documetns they will rely upon in the event of a claim

You want this spun out past 1st October as this is when NEW RULES come into force that GREATLY assist you.

splodge2018

Thanks, is there a letter template anywhere?

Umkomaas

Peter_James_Foster wrote: »

Thanks, is there a letter template anywhere?

You don't seem to have read exactly what I said regarding the letter you copied and pasted.

While that style of response will be the type to use

The NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #2 (scroll right down the post to find) is a section which provides example LBC responses. Do some digging around there.

We won't provide links on demand - first, it doesn't help you learn to navigate around the forum, which is essential if you are to fully understand what you're dealing with, and second, we would have to spend our time finding the links just to save you the task of doing so.