Pay Cap in Parts of public sector lifting....

thepurplepixie

I know a couple of nurses working well past normal retirement age, both are part-time but both have said they really worry about retiring as they know it will be hard to replace them. I know our local hospital has been recruiting overseas and I think alot of the younger nurses are Spanish but I don't know if that will continue after Brexit.

Funnily enough we seem to have plenty of dentists and I understand in some parts of the country they are in short supply.

seven-day-weekend

thepurplepixie wrote: »

I think the changes to nursing funding will hit mature students very hard. The trouble with nursing is they have much long terms than most students so no chance to work in holidays and for half the year they are on placements so basically working fulltime and writing essays etc so again not much chance to work. Not just nursing of course, midwives, paramedics etc also affected I think.

I know when I was in hospital earlier this year the student nurses were really working hard and it does seem unfair that they are working a full week and not getting anything for it. I don't know how they would have coped on the ward I was on without the students. The nurses said they particularly relied on the third year students who were hugely valuable to them.

Happens with teachers too, a lot of time is spent in school on Teaching Practice.

thepurplepixie

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Happens with teachers too, a lot of time is spent in school on Teaching Practice.

Well they do get school holidays which is alot more than nursing students, think they get six weeks a year. Teachers don't do 12 hour night shifts either and they do know they will be working Monday to Friday. I used to have students working part time for me and nursing students couldn't fit into a regular slot, like a Saturday job for example, as they would work different days.

All the teachers I know did PGCEs so it was only one year but obviously some do B.Ed so it would be different for them. There are bursaries for PGCEs and you can also train in schools and get paid, can't remember the current titles for this training. I know a physics teacher and she got over £20k as a bursary or scholarship for her PGCE, certain shortage subjects attract quite a lot of support.

I do think it is harder for nurses and the other health care degrees and they really are part of the work force as hospitals rely on them. I'm sure teaching students are welcomed in schools but don't think they are essential the way nursing students are.

vivatifosi

When I visited the hospital again, relative now on ward, was being looked after by amazing staff. However the nurses were two down, should be 5. The HCAs were stepping up, but there are so many things they can't do.

Two nurses on the ward have left. Many more talking of leaving and following others to English speaking locations where conditions are better. They said they would strike if they could, but aren't being listened to.