Jacob Ress Mogg - next PM?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Moby wrote: »

You dont know that though. The tories are desperate to find someone to replace Mayhem! Actually the one I would fear to some extent would be Dominic Raab!

Just as there is no one currently of sufficient stature to replace Corbyn there is equally no one of sufficient stature to lead the Tories.

And just as that is pretty much the only reason Corbyn remains where he is, that is one reason why May will remain where she is - for a while at least.
You're believing too much of the media's interpretation of events if you honestly believe that the Conservative party are desperate to replace May.
Or do you honestly believe that there is a race to take up the poisoned chalice of Brexit?
THAT is probably the prime incentive for the Tories to keep May where she is.

Zero_Gravitas

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Just as there is no one currently of sufficient stature to replace Corbyn there is equally no one of sufficient stature to lead the Tories.

And just as that is pretty much the only reason Corbyn remains where he is, that is one reason why May will remain where she is - for a while at least.
You're believing too much of the media's interpretation of events if you honestly believe that the Conservative party are desperate to replace May.
Or do you honestly believe that there is a race to take up the poisoned chalice of Brexit?
THAT is probably the prime incentive for the Tories to keep May where she is.

I find myself in the bizarre position of agreeing with a member of the Wee Free Men - nobody in their right minds wants to be the leader of any major political party during and after the unmitigated disaster that will be Brexit.

BobQ

DigForVictory wrote: »

My concern is that he might seek to impose his vintage views on the rest of us. As soon as the Conservative party is robust that it is liberal, tolerant etc & won't let the top dog bite, he may shift from being an intriguing figure for panel shows into a possible PM, but I'm dubious.
Nominate a tolerant hypocrite instead?

There are too many gays and bisexuals in the Conservative Party for JRM to impose his personal values on the Party without bringing down the whole edifice. A hundred years ago he may have been able to do this but not today.

There are far more things to be concerned about in his views.

MobileSaver

Fireflyaway wrote: »

I have a gay colleague. He is really nice, great at his job, kind, funny etc I don't dislike him in any way. ... However I still don't believe that gay marriage should be allowed. I don't think that makes me homophobic.

Your belief is the very definition of homophobic! An irrational prejudice against a gay man... he's a really nice guy but shouldn't be allowed to marry someone he loves unless they are female?

Mee

Loved Zoe Williams article title:
What the pope should tell Jacob Rees-Mogg: ‘You ain’t no Catholic, bruv’

kinger101

Fireflyaway wrote: »

Id be genuinely upset if he were treated badly or any less favourably because he is gay. However I still don't believe that gay marriage should be allowed.

You can't see the contradiction in what you've written.

padington

I can only presume mogg is trying to make Theresa May seem relatively nice by being an even bigger pr*ck.

Malthusian

Mee wrote: »

Loved Zoe Williams article title:
What the pope should tell Jacob Rees-Mogg: ‘You ain’t no Catholic, bruv’

But he is a Catholic.

You could legitimately say "You ain't no Christian bruv" if you were part of a Christian sect that disagreed with the Catholic Church on abortion (but not on gay marriage). This would be analogous to a member of a Muslim sect saying "You ain't no Muslim bruv" to a rival sect because of disagreement over violent jihad. But Rees-Mogg is very definitely a Catholic and is in step with Catholic dogma.

You wouldn't say "You ain't no Wahabbist" to someone because they're in favour of flogging people who listen to music.

kinger101

Malthusian wrote: »

You wouldn't say "You ain't no Wahabbist" to someone because they're in favour of flogging people who listen to music.

If it's James Blunt*, it's probably justified.

*shows how up-to-date I am. I'm sure there's more recent dross that could have been ridiculed.

Boredatwrork

Mee wrote: »

Loved Zoe Williams article title:
What the pope should tell Jacob Rees-Mogg: ‘You ain’t no Catholic, bruv’

Zoe Williams is disgusting, and has been pointed out numerous times in the forum of that ridiculous piece of journalism, what is the Catholics position on Gay marriage then? ...I will give you a hint...exactly the bloomin same

I don't really agree with Ress Mogg on his stance on this issue, but I respect his honesty, and that he respects he is one opinion against many.