Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

No?
What would you call 8% if it were our inflation rate, or our unemployment rate, or a proposed income tax increase?
:whistle:

Oh and your 8% would appear to be quite a way out.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/european-union-uk-important-brexit.html

You understand how those things are different, right?

I'm a bit out if you use those figures. I was using the full facts figure for what we send the eu and the current eu budget. I still contend that even 15%, whilst significant, wouldn't be a major black hole from which the eu couldn't recover. 30% would be, though.

Do you have more recent and relevant figures?

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

I'm not.
I'm suggesting that instead you don't take media reports at face value.

I don't. So have you just spent 3 pages arguing on the Internet for no reason other than to claim some sort of win.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

I don't. So have you just spent 3 pages arguing on the Internet for no reason other than to claim some sort of win.

As opposed to your just doing what?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

Not current.

See below - unless you think everybody's contributions have gone down?

Herzlos wrote: »

You understand how those things are different, right?

I'm a bit out if you use those figures. I was using the full facts figure for what we send the eu and the current eu budget. I still contend that even 15%, whilst significant, wouldn't be a major black hole from which the eu couldn't recover. 30% would be, though.

Do you have more recent and relevant figures?

Ah so now you question?

If you really want more recent and relevant figures, feel free to look at how much each country pays and how much each receives from the EU yourself.
If you decide to do so please post your findings in full.

Me, I CBA and especially when you will immediately pick fault any way.
So for the purposes of that post, the ones I posted are sufficient.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

How long will we remain a United Kingdom? Every argument for Brexit is an argument for Scottish or Welsh independence.

As a UK taxpayer I'd have no objection. Though why would people wish for independence simply to lose further powers and become insignificant is beyond me.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

As opposed to your just doing what?

Discussing the issues, I'd hope.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

As a UK taxpayer I'd have no objection. Though why would people wish for independence simply to lose further powers and become insignificant is beyond me.

There's a whole thread on that.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

See below - unless you think everybody's contributions have gone down?

Ah so now you question?

If you really want more recent and relevant figures, feel free to look at how much each country pays and how much each receives from the EU yourself.
If you decide to do so please post your findings in full.

Me, I CBA and especially when you will immediately pick fault any way.
So for the purposes of that post, the ones I posted are sufficient.

OK, I'll stick with my 2017 derived 8.5% figure then. It's more relevant than 2015.
If you want to claim otherwise then without evidence we'lljust need to agree to disagree.

My main point remains unanswered. Why are we assumed to be ok with taking a hit to regain sovereignty but theit's inconceivable that the EU would take a hit to maintain the EU? Some will think this 8% reduction would be worth it to cast aside our dead weight.

System

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Me, I CBA and especially when you will immediately pick fault any way.
So for the purposes of that post, the ones I posted are sufficient.

Figures on fullfact should be sufficient. £8.6bn is the 'hole' they're looking to fill.

We'll be paying a 'divorce' payment of between £20bn and £80bn.

Then payments if there's a transitional period.

Then we'll be contributing ongoing to share/ pool costs where the UK and EU can work together. There are more similarities here than differences.

..and we did hear only yesterday Ireland's contribution has gone up by £2bn just like that.

I doubt it's beyond the wit of man to sort this.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

There's a whole thread on that.

You connected the topics to Brexit. When they are unrelated.