Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

There are some parallels to the argument here. Both of them denied the existence of such a pact at the time so anyone saying one existed was speculating, reporting or offering an opinion.

Hence why I used the word truce. They needed each other to maintain power. Despite holding very different views on certain issues.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

'There is NO cliff edge' Farage reveals Brexit plan to give UK the upper hand OVER Barnier

Richard Tice says:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/861019/Nigel-Farage-Tice-Brexit-UK-Barnier-Theresa-May

I wouldn't call 8% a serious financial black hole.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Britain will leave EU single market, customs union as one nation-minister

James Brokenshire drew applause when he said: “We will leave the European Union in 2019 as one United Kingdom. That includes leaving the single market and the customs union so that we can strike new trade deals with the rest of the world.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-nireland/britain-will-leave-eu-single-market-customs-union-as-one-nation-minister-idUSKCN1C61LA?il=0

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

As yet the EU isn't a collective group though. The impact on Eire is far greater than 10% for example. hence %'s being somewhat meaningless. BMW imports parts with which to build Mini's. The UK is BMW's largest market for the Mini. A complex situation for the EU to resolve internally.

The decision will be made as a group though. Eire will have a much bigger market to re-grow sales than, say, Manchester.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Britain will leave EU single market, customs union as one nation-minister


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-nireland/britain-will-leave-eu-single-market-customs-union-as-one-nation-minister-idUSKCN1C61LA?il=0

How long will we remain a United Kingdom? Every argument for Brexit is an argument for Scottish or Welsh independence.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

I wouldn't call 8% a serious financial black hole.

No?
What would you call 8% if it were our inflation rate, or our unemployment rate, or a proposed income tax increase?
:whistle:

Oh and your 8% would appear to be quite a way out.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/european-union-uk-important-brexit.html

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Lying?
Unlike almost every other politician in the history of politics you mean?
Righty-ho.

Exactly. So I don't know why you're insisting that we take their statement at face value.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

How long will we remain a United Kingdom? Every argument for Brexit is an argument for Scottish or Welsh independence.

Ah, the "how long is a piece of string" argument.

Okay, how long will Poland or Hungary or Ireland or Greece or Italy remain in the EU?
Every demonstration of obstinate self-harm from Eurocrats regarding Brexit is an argument for their withdrawal.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

Exactly. So I don't know why you're insisting that we take their statement at face value.

I'm not.
I'm suggesting that instead you don't take media reports at face value.

System

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Oh and your 8% would appear to be quite a way out.

Not current.

In 2016 the UK government paid £13.1 billion to the EU budget, and EU spending on the UK was forecast to be £4.5 billion. So the UK’s ‘net contribution’ was estimated at about £8.6 billion.

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/