Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

There’s a curious omission from the U.K. government’s European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: a date.



http://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-date-uk-law-does-not-include-an-exit-date/

Perhaps read the comments at the bottom for clues?
Basically, the exit date is as set out in the terms of Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.
The following from there seems particularly appropriate:

I was wandering around wondering what to clutch and then I suddenly found a pile of straws…… (sp)

GreatApe

Conrad wrote: »

Link me to examples of prospering nations unable to attract fruit pickers et al over the long term.

You miss the point, the brits will of course pick fruit wait tables and clean old people

However with migration, the bits have better paying and higher status options. That is the main benefit of migration it pushes the locals up the jobs 'food chain'

If we get rid of the migrants, your own children will have to wipe the bums gut the fish and wash the cars.

westernpromise

GreatApe wrote: »

If we get rid of the migrants, your own children will have to wipe the bums gut the fish and wash the cars.

That's a rather rosy view. You really think there'll be that many graduate jobs?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Asked about a story in the Financial Times that May is preparing to offer to pay up to €20bn (£17.67bn) into the EU budget during a transition period, to secure continued access to the single market and customs union, the spokesman said: “There has been much speculation in advance of this speech and I’m sure there will be much more, but it’s just that.”

There you go, as I said earlier it is just rumour; speculation.

...the cabinet has been summoned to a rare Thursday meeting to discuss the text of the prime minister’s Brexit update speech in Florence, to be delivered on Friday morning.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/20/theresa-may-to-fly-boris-johnson-back-early-from-us-to-discuss-brexit


There's this too:

European Council President Donald Tusk said he would meet with British Prime Minister Theresa May in London next Tuesday to discuss Brexit, days after she is due to make a keynote speech on her vision for future ties with the EU.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-tusk/eus-tusk-uks-may-to-talk-brexit-next-tuesday-idUKKCN1BU2QK?il=0

Are the Eurocrats worried or is something brewing?
There are only two days until TM's Florence speech; we will know for sure soon enough.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

If you want to go to one of your ropey websites and have a good laugh you're free to do so. Knock yourself out

Oh aye, because the Telegraph is really "ropey" eh?
:rotfl:


I see that the Spanish government is really cracking down on Catalonian plans for an independence election, arresting officials and seizing property in their desperation to stop the vote going ahead.
Such actions might just have the opposite effect and persuade more Catalonians that independence is preferable to bullying.

Catalonia referendum: Spain steps up raids to halt vote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41331152

Catalan president says Madrid is suspending region’s autonomy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/20/spain-guardia-civil-raid-catalan-government-hq-referendum-row


*Please excuse the links to what some seem to think are "ropey websites".

Sapphire

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

*Please excuse the links to what some seem to think are "ropey websites".

:T:rotfl::beer:

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

I was watching a Schulz interview where he was being questioned by the audience and a member of the audience asked a question about unaffordable housing. I hadn't realised Germany was experiencing a housing crisis. Makes sense though.

Looks like Germans are getting to experience the full effects of mass migration.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/politics/housing-shortage-gets-political-787968

Good Luck Germans. This is what happens when politicians and business tell you that you need more workers, you get priced out of your own home.

It's good to blame immigrants but I think you will find that much of it stems from Eastern German people moving west. Just like the South East of England being a magnate for much of Britain.
http://www.dw.com/en/two-million-fewer-people-in-former-east-since-german-reunification/a-18749892

"The data, released ahead of the
25th anniversary of German reunification
on Saturday, showed that the population of the five states that once formed East Germany had fallen from some 14.5 million in 1991 to 12.5 million in 2013."

gfplux

This from Bloomberg Brexit email today.

"Bank of America strategists have been crunching the Brexit numbers and are warning the biggest risk for U.K. companies may be a decline in migration after March 2019.
They reckon if net migration fell by 1 million more over three years than currently forecast, there would need to be 400,000 fewer homes and that would have repercussions for the economy.
“Even in a mild environment we could have no house price inflation for a generation,” said analyst Andy Murphy."

That will be music to the ears of Brexiters as housing "might" become more affordable.

System

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Are the Eurocrats worried or is something brewing?
There are only two days until TM's Florence speech; we will know for sure soon enough.

Something's 'up'. I told you.

Boris was most put out that May was preparing to intervene. That's why he wrote his own vision of brexit - he was simply 'running a flag up the flagpole' - unfortunately for him there wasn't much in the way of saluting and he's had to accept put downs from Rudd and May plus he's had to do some grovelling.

In terms of the 'divorce' bill it's highly sensitive. You can be 100% sure that if there have been approaches to test the water any questions will be answered along the lines of 'yes, there has been much speculation' - it's not an answer to the question asked.

May simply cannot afford to make her big speech and be rebuked by the EU. If she makes any concessions or offers potential solutions to get past the hiatus you can be pretty sure they won't be new news to the EU.

I do wonder if Davis is going to last. He doesn't seem to be able to maintain a cordial working relationship with his peers in the EU. Not just his fault I'm sure.

The gospel according to Sky News tell us a key brexiteer is less than impressed with his performance.

The chief of the Vote Leave campaign has branded the Government's handling of Brexit a "shambles" as he blamed the "clueless" actions of David Davis.

Dominic Cummings, who was director of the official Brexit campaign during the EU referendum, called for a "reboot" of Downing Street and the Civil Service in order to cope with the "huge change" required by leaving the EU.

He urged Conservative donors not to hand over any more money to the party while the Brexit Secretary and head of the Civil Service, Sir Jeremy Heywood, remain in place.

http://news.sky.com/story/vote-leave-chief-attacks-david-davis-over-brexit-shambles-11042419

buglawton

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/business/2017/09/19/muller-to-expand-shropshire-factories-as-part-of-100m-investment/