Brexit, the economy and house prices (Part 3)

System

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Another Brexit rumour debunked.

What's your point?

A concrete offer hasn't been made or it never will?

mayonnaise

posh*spice wrote: »

Sky are reporting we are bending over and giving the EU at least 20 billion euros post Brexit.

Don't forget that when your relatives are dying on trollies this winter in NHS hospitals.

Get yourself some private health insurance - whether you're remainers or leavers.

The EU are robbers.

posh*spice wrote: »

That's 10 bilion per year for 2 years after we leave.

Say what?

Who cares that everyone is dying here in the uk for lac of f health care - the EU commissionaires need their fix.

Nuts.

posh*spice wrote: »

I guess some might see it as a positive - 20 billion and we are shut of them ....

You were getting all upset about another (now debunked) Brexit rumour. Oh well.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

What's your point?

A concrete offer hasn't been made or it never will?

Oh dear, becoming a little irascible now?
The point is that again the UK media have been caught out in an untruth. You might find that acceptable but many including myself do not.
This is why such statements are questioned when they surface.

ilovehouses wrote: »

Here's an interesting one. Ineos, a huge chemicals manufacturer, are diversifying into car production.

They think there's a gap in the market now that Land Rover have ceased production of the Defender.

Options are for a brand new plant in the North East or, alternatively, there's quite a lot of spare capacity in Europe. the billionaire founder of Ineos has 'a passion for UK manufacturing'.

Watch this space.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41317895

Old news, because some of us have been "watching this space" since June - or even earlier, like February - and still there is no firm news of a site location:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/06/ineos-says-building-new-4x4-cars-europe-would-not-snub-post/

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/defender/96387/new-ineos-projekt-grenadier-4x4-to-arrive-in-2020

Perhaps you understand now why I suggested you read more.

cogito

GreatApe wrote: »

The uk gives the EU much less than most nations thanks to the thatcher rebate, she really did good for the nation there. So its not right to say we pay a lot, we dont, the problem is we get much less back primarily because we have not a lot of land per capita and a lot of the payments from the EU are for farming.

What? The UK gives the EU less than 3 nations and more than 24. How is that less?

We get less back because of the CAP stitch up designed by the French to benefit the French.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

For those who may not know, CETA provisionally comes into force tomorrow (Thursday September 21st) before it has been fully approved in the EU Parliament.
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-3121_en.htm

A little on what it means for manufacturers:
http://www.foodnavigator.com/Policy/Five-things-food-businesses-should-know-as-CETA-comes-into-force

And the POV of Greenpeace:
http://www.greenpeace.org/eu-unit/en/News/2017/ceta-food-safety-provisional-application/

Conrad

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Link me to examples of Australia and Canada suffering LONG TERM lack of fruit pickers, unable to come up with solutions.


I expect scurvy abounds.
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CKhalvashi wrote: »

Do both not import labour to do so?

Do we not import labour to do so?

Oh, wait......

Eh?????????


Link me to examples of prospering nations unable to attract fruit pickers et al over the long term. I have no idea what your 'answer' means

Conrad

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.theindustryobserver.com.au/uk-music-call-for-a-europe-wide-live-music-passport/

Grown-up discussion of potential solutions to Brexit challenges, how refreshing.


Far preferable to 'this all too difficult, we told you so, heyalp heyalp its all going wrong we are helpless, Brexit is a disaster'

cogito

Meanwhile things are heating up in Catalunya as Spain seizes ballot papers and makes arrests ahead of the referendum on independence. A couple of weeks ago, the polls indicated a majority in favour of remaining part of Spain. Now Rajoy's hamfistedness has probably ensured an opposite result.

I'm trying to imagine what would have happened if the UK government had handled the Scottish referendum in the same way.

Thrugelmir

cogito wrote: »

I'm trying to imagine what would have happened if the UK government had handled the Scottish referendum in the same way.

Not the same circumstances though. Catalunya is financially independent. Which then becomes an issue for the remainder of Spain.

mayonnaise

There’s a curious omission from the U.K. government’s European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: a date.

“Exit day” is mentioned 128 times in the bill — but not once is the date March 29, 2019 set down in writing.

http://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-date-uk-law-does-not-include-an-exit-date/