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  • OK but the courts would only know if GS didn't pay me if I told them or raised the warrant?
    Sorry I'm a little confused with the triggering process for a CCJ.
  • Castle
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    OK but the courts would only know if GS didn't pay me if I told them or raised the warrant?
    Sorry I'm a little confused with the triggering process for a CCJ.
    They already have a CCJ, but once UKCPM pays you and the funds clear, you notify the court and the CCJ will be removed from their record, (if paid within 28 days).
  • completelyfubar
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    edited 31 January 2018 at 12:33PM
    Updated: I think we have a mix up on where I am in the process.
    I'm just waiting to be paid my successful defence costs
  • bargepole
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    Updated: I think we have a mix up on where I am in the process.
    I'm just waiting to be paid my successful defence costs

    No mix up. The Judgment Order which says they have to pay those costs is recorded as a CCJ against them.

    As stated above, it will be removed once they pay.

    I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
  • completelyfubar
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    edited 2 February 2018 at 12:15PM
    Thanks for the clarification guys,
    OK so there is a further process that the Judge didn't explain...
  • Cheque arrived today.

    Something fishy going on with the second claim, I had a response to my letter saying that the judge has considered my comments and will be in touch with his decision soon. That was a week ago, no contact.
    Also the evidence bundles have been requested for a month before the hearing 'on papers'. The last one was 14 days which I believe is the norm?
    I'm wondering if my letter to the Judge (last year) highlighting the similarity in the cases has finally been read! That and the fact there are a glut of cases now going through Burnley with regard to UKCPM and Roe Lee Car Park..... All with pretty much identical Particulars of claim.
  • nosferatu1001
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    A month before is fine, if the judge just ordered it

    Yes it could have been read
  • Coupon-mad
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    a month before the hearing 'on papers'.

    So the Judge wants to hear that one on papers alone, no hearing? Is it the same facts/same car park?

    Did you tell them you don't want the case heard on the papers, and never agreed to it because you prefer to give oral evidence against a rogue parking firm. Add that you cannot understand why you are being put through this twice, when the matter has just been heard at a hearing where you won and were awarded costs against the claimant (claim number xxxxxx).

    Say it seems that the claimant is trying to waste the court's time by duplicating a matter that has already essentially been decided on the same facts.
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  • OK peeps, this is just to update the thread in case others are watching.
    Finally got a response from the court changing it to an oral hearing.
    I've sent off my WS that opens with a request for dismissal by Claim Preclusion.
    I've sent various emails/letters to GS/UKCPM/Court regarding this but we still proceed towards a hearing? bizarre to say the least. I really thought the court would have already dismissed this one. The hearing isn't until the 29th March so still time I suppose.
    I'm not really bothered if I have to go to a hearing, great fun watching the rep squirm and I get paid my costs anyway :)

    There are quite a few hearings scheduled at Burnley regarding the same iticket contract, we are all in contact on a closed FB chat. Two cases have already been discontinued by GS at the last minute so the defendants didn't get a chance to claim back costs :(.

    Also, there are a lot of people in the group who ignored the court papers unfortunately and are now applying for a set-aside and hoping to get all their costs/fee's back.
  • There are quite a few hearings scheduled at Burnley regarding the same iticket contract, we are all in contact on a closed FB chat. Two cases have already been discontinued by GS at the last minute so the defendants didn't get a chance to claim back costs :(.

    When a Claimant discontinues, the issue of costs remains live.


    So the Defendant needs to write to the court and ask it to make a costs order.


    read peperlini's thread. There are drafts on there. They will need to be adapted to the particular circumstances of each case. You need to make a costs argument and do a costs schedule. Nothing lost, nothing gained, it's worth a go on paper. Sassii got £1,500 in costs (although I think that was a bit of a fluke, but still...).


    I'll go and look for a link to peperlini's thread.


    Some people may have left it a bit late to do this, although I am not aware of any time limit.
    Although a practising Solicitor, my posts here are NOT legal advice, but are personal opinion based on limited facts provided anonymously by forum users. I accept no liability for the accuracy of any such posts and users are advised that, if they wish to obtain formal legal advice specific to their case, they must seek instruct and pay a solicitor.
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