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VCS Ltd PCN 'Fines' / BW Legal

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  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    You are NOT APPEALING
    Get that word out of your head
    You are showing why you have no legal liability

    You MUST edit your posts. DO NOT infer who drove. Call them "the driver". Nothing else.
    VCS fail, entirely, when it comes to following POFA2012 sufficiently to hold the Keeper liable. They dont even bother, from memory.

    So you MUST edit. Can others also appropriately edit.
  • rvp1983
    rvp1983 Posts: 21 Forumite
    You are NOT APPEALING
    Get that word out of your head
    You are showing why you have no legal liability

    You MUST edit your posts. DO NOT infer who drove. Call them "the driver". Nothing else.
    VCS fail, entirely, when it comes to following POFA2012 sufficiently to hold the Keeper liable. They dont even bother, from memory.

    So you MUST edit. Can others also appropriately edit.

    Thanks for your advice.
  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    rvp1983 wrote: »
    Please see my post edited above. I assume they're asking the driver to pay, considering the letter is addressed to the driver.

    How do they know who was driving? Has somebody told them who was driving?
  • rvp1983
    rvp1983 Posts: 21 Forumite
    waamo wrote: »
    How do they know who was driving? Has somebody told them who was driving?

    The person who the PCNs and letters were addressed to certainly hasn't told them who was driving on the days the car park was used. Do VCS hold any hard proof of who the driver was on the days?
  • rvp1983
    rvp1983 Posts: 21 Forumite
    Umkomaas wrote: »
    This looks to be at a debt collecting stage rather than a formal Letter Before County Court Claim (LBCCC)...

    Is there anything the addressee should be doing right now before it gets to the LBCCC stage? Or should the letter be ignored until that point?

    i read on the sticky that a robust response is advised, but that it's better to ignore...
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    rvp1983 wrote: »
    The person who the PCNs and letters were addressed to certainly hasn't told them who was driving on the days the car park was used. Do VCS hold any hard proof of who the driver was on the days?

    NO, it is impossible for them know who was driving

    you will never tell them
  • rvp1983
    rvp1983 Posts: 21 Forumite
    beamerguy wrote: »
    NO, it is impossible for them know who was driving

    you will never tell them

    So if they ever ask who was driving, what does the addressee tell them?
  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    You are under no obligation to tell them. If I asked you for £500 what would you say?
  • rvp1983
    rvp1983 Posts: 21 Forumite
    waamo wrote: »
    You are under no obligation to tell them. If I asked you for £500 what would you say?

    Point taken. Thanks!
  • rvp1983
    rvp1983 Posts: 21 Forumite
    edited 28 November 2017 at 4:06PM
    Hi.

    The keeper has now received a further letter from VCS Ltd (not an official court document). This time, the letter is titled 'Letter Before Claim'.

    It is asking the keeper to now pay an increased sum of money before c. 20th December.

    Can someone please advise what should be done next? Should a written response be sent back?

    Thank you.
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