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  • I am purchasing a property that has not been previously registered. The latest update which has been passed down from the vendor’s solicitor is this. 

    The application has been expedited. Land Registry sent a requisition to (solicitor) which they didn’t receive, but they have followed this up and now have this. There is an issue as Land Registry are stating they cannot locate the property despite the documents and plans they have been provided with.

    What does this actually mean? They haven’t said anything about how it will be resolved or given any indication of how long it might take. 

    Thank you. 
  • Land_Registry
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    I am purchasing a property that has not been previously registered. The latest update which has been passed down from the vendor’s solicitor is this. 

    The application has been expedited. Land Registry sent a requisition to (solicitor) which they didn’t receive, but they have followed this up and now have this. There is an issue as Land Registry are stating they cannot locate the property despite the documents and plans they have been provided with.

    What does this actually mean? They haven’t said anything about how it will be resolved or given any indication of how long it might take. 

    Thank you. 
    Means they’ve applied to register it but we can’t locate it on a map - seems an odd one really but suspect something lost in translation between conveyancers trying to explain delay 
    What’s the address?
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • @landRegistry

    We are in the process of buying a property that would be needing a lot of work done before moving in, and the end of our tenancy agreement is fast approaching. We have our mortgage offer 13th February. Its only now when our solicitor are requesting documents from vendors solicitors that we have been made aware by the EA that the vendor made a first registration application May 2023, and  that this have now just been expedited. Is it possible to check the status of the application to LR with any other information but the application reference? If yes, what could this be

    We really are worried there wouldn't be enough time to carry out the works needed for us to move in by the end of our tenancy 

    Any help would really be appreciated 
    Update on our case. Application for registration for first registration was lodge with LR in May and was expedited late January, LR made a requisition 2 February which they are still waiting for a response to, over a month later.
    We have only found this out through response by LR to our request for information on here

    Our conveyancer is useless, he's declared to me that he's never dealt with a case of an unregistered property before. He is not chasing and don't seem to be doing anything to know exactly what is going on. EA progression team did told us there was a request for more information by LR but that it was responded to already, and are only waiting for LRs response, but this turned out to not be the case

    Shouldn't my solicitor be asking what really is going on, and getting to the bottom of where the miss up is?

    We really are getting frustrated not knowing exactly what is going on. We have all searches done, mortgage offer in place, just this holding up everything, we are FTB, no chain of any sort
  • cazarol
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    edited 10 March 2024 at 8:18PM
    Hi, i own my property with no mortgage.  It was bought in 1995.  I’ve downloaded the title register and plan , are these documents classed as the ‘Title deeds’? Or are there other documents required to sell the property when I pass away.
    also, is there a document which shows the boundaries and which I am responsible for?
     Any advice greatly appreciated, thank you in advance
  • Land_Registry
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    cazarol said:
    Hi, i own my property with no mortgage.  It was bought in 1995.  I’ve downloaded the title register and plan , are these documents classed as the ‘Title deeds’? Or are there other documents required to sell the property when I pass away.
    also, is there a document which shows the boundaries and which I am responsible for?
     Any advice greatly appreciated, thank you in advance
    The registered information is usually referred to as the ‘title deeds’, yes. It’s a term also used for unregistered land/property as legal title is proven by the old original deeds and documents 
    You don’t need the copy to sell. Your buyer will get their own current copies from us 
    The title plan shows the general boundaries. Not all titles refer to whose responsible for boundaries 
    https://hmlandregistry.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/27/drawing-the-line-on-boundaries/
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • We own an old end terraced house & 10 years ago we bought the land at the side of the property.
    Although this parcel of land is on a seperate title will this cause future conveyancing issues? 
    The parcel of land together with our property are in same names as myself & my wife. There are no rights of way/restrictions on the land either.

    Thanks
  • Land_Registry
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    john-5-2 said:
    We own an old end terraced house & 10 years ago we bought the land at the side of the property.
    Although this parcel of land is on a seperate title will this cause future conveyancing issues? 
    The parcel of land together with our property are in same names as myself & my wife. There are no rights of way/restrictions on the land either.

    Thanks
    Not if your conveyancer is aware and so too are the buyer/their conveyancer. It shouldn’t pose you any issues 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • LTNRW
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    edited 22 March 2024 at 2:38PM
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6515316/seller-about-to-pull-out-stuck-due-to-no-fault-of-our-own#Hi all, I am in a bit of a crisis at the moment.

    had an offer accepted on a property , on the 1st march.
    Property was on the market for over 6 months
    Before my offer.

    To buy this property I am selling mine, I have no mortgage owing so will be using the equity to buy the new property outright.

    My buyer is ready to exchange 
    as am I and the seller of the property I am buying.

    However.

    it was discovered during the conveyancing of my sale, that an old charge that expired in 2019 was not removed 

    We know who this was and have alerted them 
    they have confirmed the expiration and have requested the remival
     
    the land registry have also been made aware 
    and have issued docs for the council to return and they can then remove 

    in the meantime we are stuck 
    the council were alerted in January to this
    And are now putting my sale and purchase into jeopardy. 

    I do not know what to do

    the DS1 application for removal was submitted February 1st
    with an application to expedite submitted on the 13th February.
    this was approved by land registry

    but it seems nobody knows what is happening or who’s got to do what
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,129 Organisation Representative
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    LTNRW said:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6515316/seller-about-to-pull-out-stuck-due-to-no-fault-of-our-own#Hi all, I am in a bit of a crisis at the moment.

    had an offer accepted on a property , on the 1st march.
    Property was on the market for over 6 months
    Before my offer.

    To buy this property I am selling mine, I have no mortgage owing so will be using the equity to buy the new property outright.

    My buyer is ready to exchange 
    as am I and the seller of the property I am buying.

    However.

    it was discovered during the conveyancing of my sale, that an old charge that expired in 2019 was not removed 

    We know who this was and have alerted them 
    they have confirmed the expiration and have requested the remival
     
    the land registry have also been made aware 
    and have issued docs for the council to return and they can then remove 

    in the meantime we are stuck 
    the council were alerted in January to this
    And are now putting my sale and purchase into jeopardy. 

    I do not know what to do

    the DS1 application for removal was submitted February 1st
    with an application to expedite submitted on the 13th February.
    this was approved by land registry

    but it seems nobody knows what is happening or who’s got to do what
    It reads as if the delay is whilst we wait for the council to confirm the charge can be removed. Odds are they provided a paper DS1 so when we process it they are notified and given 15 days to consent/object. If they do neither we complete the application. 
    So if expedited as you say and then processed the 15 days should be up. Which may mean there was something else wrong. 
    Key facts you need are who lodged it and what have they heard/said? 
    If you want us to check then what’s the title number? 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • babyblade41
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    @Land_Registry could you help please. My OH and I want our current property in joint names with 50% ownership so that we can both leave our perspective halves to our own children (We have a blended family) He had the land and I paid for the construction of our conversion.

    What forms do I need or would it be better for my solicitor to do it ?

    Many thanks 
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