Land Registry questions

GJB1954

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GJB1954 said:

Land registry question . How do we find out if house is freehold. In 1986 a cheque was paid to a solicitors for transfer of leasehold to freehold. Other neighbours did the same. This was done due to cost of collecting leasehold charges etc.  Now selling house and it seems from land registry that no details of this has happened. Yet my neighbours managed to find their transfer etc. Please can you help 

I think you mean that they all bought their freeholds. If they did then some may have determined their lease by merging it with th3 freehold. They then have just a freehold property/title. 

If they didn’t merge then they’ll still have a freehold and leasehold but both in same name(s). 

If you paid a cheque then where’s the transfer? If you don’t have a transfer then it’s still owned by the seller presumably. 

And what’s registered? Both freehold and leasehold or just the latter? 

https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

I and a lot of my neighbours, took this offer to buy their own freehold. This was done for a fixed price for each property. My buyers solicitor on the records they have done searches for and sent to me   from yourselves . There is no details of freehold change. Yet there is details of my wife name being added in 2018. I only have a cheque payment stub with details of solicitor and amount paid to them in 1986. Which was about same time of offer for buying leasehold. My bank does not have details that far back. Is there a different record that the leasehold / freehold change may be on ? 

Land_Registry

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Hello,
Thank you for your answer to my previous query. Our solicitors have also submitted an AP1 in respect of title number NT530125 that the Land Registry registers the burden of the relevant right of way. Could you tell me the steps that are required to be undertaken by LR and the expected timescales please? Our solicitors have provided evidence that show property transfer dates, and the relevant clauses within the transfers that we have right of way over a piece of land which was incorrectly transferred a year after our purchase. As the land was mistakenly transferred, the right of way is not currently detailed on the title plan. I believe a request has been made to expedite this, as it risks causing the whole chain to collapse if not resolved quickly. Are you able to check if this has been expedited or not please?
Thanks again for your help,

The application was submitted 4th May and expedited 14th May. Unfortunately there are a few prior applications against the other affected title which have priority so that will delay matters I’m afraid. 

If the applicant affecting the other title does not reply before next week then their application is likely to be cancelled. If that happens then your application will be considered ASAP. 

Hello, thank you for the information. Does that mean the applications cannot run in parallel, one has to complete before the next one starts? Are the few mentioned applications all related, so either all cancelled or all progressed? Thanks

Whilst they can it’s rarely the case as each has its own priority over the other. The oldest one cannot complete as we need more from the applicant. We can’t jump forward until that’s resolved 
Cancellation of an older application does not result in cancellation of later ones unless they are dependent of course, which they are not 

Hello, thanks for the explanation, I appreciate the update. Has the oldest outstanding case been started or is it still awaiting to be assigned a caseworker? 

The oldest one has been processed but we need more from the conveyancer and they’ve yet to respond 

Land_Registry

GJB1954 said:

Land_Registry said:

GJB1954 said:

Land registry question . How do we find out if house is freehold. In 1986 a cheque was paid to a solicitors for transfer of leasehold to freehold. Other neighbours did the same. This was done due to cost of collecting leasehold charges etc.  Now selling house and it seems from land registry that no details of this has happened. Yet my neighbours managed to find their transfer etc. Please can you help 

I think you mean that they all bought their freeholds. If they did then some may have determined their lease by merging it with th3 freehold. They then have just a freehold property/title. 

If they didn’t merge then they’ll still have a freehold and leasehold but both in same name(s). 

If you paid a cheque then where’s the transfer? If you don’t have a transfer then it’s still owned by the seller presumably. 

And what’s registered? Both freehold and leasehold or just the latter? 

https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

I and a lot of my neighbours, took this offer to buy their own freehold. This was done for a fixed price for each property. My buyers solicitor on the records they have done searches for and sent to me   from yourselves . There is no details of freehold change. Yet there is details of my wife name being added in 2018. I only have a cheque payment stub with details of solicitor and amount paid to them in 1986. Which was about same time of offer for buying leasehold. My bank does not have details that far back. Is there a different record that the leasehold / freehold change may be on ? 

No hence if you bought the freehold you’d need a legal deed (transfer) which would then need to be registered 

Swanny3542

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Hello,
Thank you for your answer to my previous query. Our solicitors have also submitted an AP1 in respect of title number NT530125 that the Land Registry registers the burden of the relevant right of way. Could you tell me the steps that are required to be undertaken by LR and the expected timescales please? Our solicitors have provided evidence that show property transfer dates, and the relevant clauses within the transfers that we have right of way over a piece of land which was incorrectly transferred a year after our purchase. As the land was mistakenly transferred, the right of way is not currently detailed on the title plan. I believe a request has been made to expedite this, as it risks causing the whole chain to collapse if not resolved quickly. Are you able to check if this has been expedited or not please?
Thanks again for your help,

The application was submitted 4th May and expedited 14th May. Unfortunately there are a few prior applications against the other affected title which have priority so that will delay matters I’m afraid. 

If the applicant affecting the other title does not reply before next week then their application is likely to be cancelled. If that happens then your application will be considered ASAP. 

Hello, thank you for the information. Does that mean the applications cannot run in parallel, one has to complete before the next one starts? Are the few mentioned applications all related, so either all cancelled or all progressed? Thanks

Whilst they can it’s rarely the case as each has its own priority over the other. The oldest one cannot complete as we need more from the applicant. We can’t jump forward until that’s resolved 
Cancellation of an older application does not result in cancellation of later ones unless they are dependent of course, which they are not 

Hello, thanks for the explanation, I appreciate the update. Has the oldest outstanding case been started or is it still awaiting to be assigned a caseworker? 

The oldest one has been processed but we need more from the conveyancer and they’ve yet to respond 

Thanks. How long do they have to respond? Is there a set timescale on these things considering a case that it is holding up has been requested to be expedited?

Land_Registry

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Hello,
Thank you for your answer to my previous query. Our solicitors have also submitted an AP1 in respect of title number NT530125 that the Land Registry registers the burden of the relevant right of way. Could you tell me the steps that are required to be undertaken by LR and the expected timescales please? Our solicitors have provided evidence that show property transfer dates, and the relevant clauses within the transfers that we have right of way over a piece of land which was incorrectly transferred a year after our purchase. As the land was mistakenly transferred, the right of way is not currently detailed on the title plan. I believe a request has been made to expedite this, as it risks causing the whole chain to collapse if not resolved quickly. Are you able to check if this has been expedited or not please?
Thanks again for your help,

The application was submitted 4th May and expedited 14th May. Unfortunately there are a few prior applications against the other affected title which have priority so that will delay matters I’m afraid. 

If the applicant affecting the other title does not reply before next week then their application is likely to be cancelled. If that happens then your application will be considered ASAP. 

Hello, thank you for the information. Does that mean the applications cannot run in parallel, one has to complete before the next one starts? Are the few mentioned applications all related, so either all cancelled or all progressed? Thanks

Whilst they can it’s rarely the case as each has its own priority over the other. The oldest one cannot complete as we need more from the applicant. We can’t jump forward until that’s resolved 
Cancellation of an older application does not result in cancellation of later ones unless they are dependent of course, which they are not 

Hello, thanks for the explanation, I appreciate the update. Has the oldest outstanding case been started or is it still awaiting to be assigned a caseworker? 

The oldest one has been processed but we need more from the conveyancer and they’ve yet to respond 

Thanks. How long do they have to respond? Is there a set timescale on these things considering a case that it is holding up has been requested to be expedited?

Set timescales as in 4 weeks with a reminder at 3 weeks. They can ask for an extension though so it’s not a ‘short’ timescale 

Clare1384

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Clare1384 said:

Land_Registry said:

Clare1384 said:

Land_Registry said:

Hi @Land_Registry,
The seller (Housing Association)'s solicitor submitted a request to remove the Unilateral Notice and said they cannot provide a timeline when it will be removed or to expedite it, is that true? My solicitor said there is nothing can be done until the request has been removed and HA's solicitor refused to have an undertaking that it will be either. I read that Unilateral Notice can be removed after 15 days if there is no objection. It seems like everyone is saying something different and nothing is moving at all.. for months at this point. Thank you

You’ve got a variety of info for different things here
Applications of this type are waiting several weeks (8/9) on average before being processed
A request to expedite and shorten that wait time can be made 
Most solicitor’s won’t proceed before removal 
15 days is the notice period applied when the actual application is processed and we notify the beneficiary. They have that time to respond 
So when was it lodged and what actual stage is it at? I assume waiting still? 

Thanks @Land_Registry
The application was made on 14th April and doesn't sound like it has been expedited, does that mean it is unlikely it is in the notice period? I am still waiting and the mortgage offer expires in just under 5 weeks. Is there actually any chance of getting it removed in the next 3-4 weeks provided there's no objection? Thanks again!

Very unlikely if not expedited. It’s not going to be considered and processed in time if it’s not expedited 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-an-expedite

Thanks again @Land_Registry I have the HM LR and document registration reference, is there anywhere I can check which stage it is at? No one has provided any update and seems extremely slow with replies... 

GJB1954

Land_Registry said:

GJB1954 said:

Land_Registry said:

GJB1954 said:

Land registry question . How do we find out if house is freehold. In 1986 a cheque was paid to a solicitors for transfer of leasehold to freehold. Other neighbours did the same. This was done due to cost of collecting leasehold charges etc.  Now selling house and it seems from land registry that no details of this has happened. Yet my neighbours managed to find their transfer etc. Please can you help 

I think you mean that they all bought their freeholds. If they did then some may have determined their lease by merging it with th3 freehold. They then have just a freehold property/title. 

If they didn’t merge then they’ll still have a freehold and leasehold but both in same name(s). 

If you paid a cheque then where’s the transfer? If you don’t have a transfer then it’s still owned by the seller presumably. 

And what’s registered? Both freehold and leasehold or just the latter? 

https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

I and a lot of my neighbours, took this offer to buy their own freehold. This was done for a fixed price for each property. My buyers solicitor on the records they have done searches for and sent to me   from yourselves . There is no details of freehold change. Yet there is details of my wife name being added in 2018. I only have a cheque payment stub with details of solicitor and amount paid to them in 1986. Which was about same time of offer for buying leasehold. My bank does not have details that far back. Is there a different record that the leasehold / freehold change may be on ? 

No hence if you bought the freehold you’d need a legal deed (transfer) which would then need to be registered 

I am not sure if you can answer this. Just after the cheque was paid for freehold. There are no further payments to the leasehold company. Who if anyone can I contact to find out why my leasehold / freehold was not changed. I would of thought that even though leasehold was small amount, letters would be sent for non payment ?

Swanny3542

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Land_Registry said:

Swanny3542 said:

Hello,
Thank you for your answer to my previous query. Our solicitors have also submitted an AP1 in respect of title number NT530125 that the Land Registry registers the burden of the relevant right of way. Could you tell me the steps that are required to be undertaken by LR and the expected timescales please? Our solicitors have provided evidence that show property transfer dates, and the relevant clauses within the transfers that we have right of way over a piece of land which was incorrectly transferred a year after our purchase. As the land was mistakenly transferred, the right of way is not currently detailed on the title plan. I believe a request has been made to expedite this, as it risks causing the whole chain to collapse if not resolved quickly. Are you able to check if this has been expedited or not please?
Thanks again for your help,

The application was submitted 4th May and expedited 14th May. Unfortunately there are a few prior applications against the other affected title which have priority so that will delay matters I’m afraid. 

If the applicant affecting the other title does not reply before next week then their application is likely to be cancelled. If that happens then your application will be considered ASAP. 

Hello, thank you for the information. Does that mean the applications cannot run in parallel, one has to complete before the next one starts? Are the few mentioned applications all related, so either all cancelled or all progressed? Thanks

Whilst they can it’s rarely the case as each has its own priority over the other. The oldest one cannot complete as we need more from the applicant. We can’t jump forward until that’s resolved 
Cancellation of an older application does not result in cancellation of later ones unless they are dependent of course, which they are not 

Hello, thanks for the explanation, I appreciate the update. Has the oldest outstanding case been started or is it still awaiting to be assigned a caseworker? 

The oldest one has been processed but we need more from the conveyancer and they’ve yet to respond 

Thanks. How long do they have to respond? Is there a set timescale on these things considering a case that it is holding up has been requested to be expedited?

Set timescales as in 4 weeks with a reminder at 3 weeks. They can ask for an extension though so it’s not a ‘short’ timescale 

Are you allowed to tell me when they were first contacted? How many weeks or days have already passed?

Land_Registry

Clare1384 said:

Land_Registry said:

Clare1384 said:

Land_Registry said:

Clare1384 said:

Land_Registry said:

Hi @Land_Registry,
The seller (Housing Association)'s solicitor submitted a request to remove the Unilateral Notice and said they cannot provide a timeline when it will be removed or to expedite it, is that true? My solicitor said there is nothing can be done until the request has been removed and HA's solicitor refused to have an undertaking that it will be either. I read that Unilateral Notice can be removed after 15 days if there is no objection. It seems like everyone is saying something different and nothing is moving at all.. for months at this point. Thank you

You’ve got a variety of info for different things here
Applications of this type are waiting several weeks (8/9) on average before being processed
A request to expedite and shorten that wait time can be made 
Most solicitor’s won’t proceed before removal 
15 days is the notice period applied when the actual application is processed and we notify the beneficiary. They have that time to respond 
So when was it lodged and what actual stage is it at? I assume waiting still? 

Thanks @Land_Registry
The application was made on 14th April and doesn't sound like it has been expedited, does that mean it is unlikely it is in the notice period? I am still waiting and the mortgage offer expires in just under 5 weeks. Is there actually any chance of getting it removed in the next 3-4 weeks provided there's no objection? Thanks again!

Very unlikely if not expedited. It’s not going to be considered and processed in time if it’s not expedited 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-an-expedite

Thanks again @Land_Registry I have the HM LR and document registration reference, is there anywhere I can check which stage it is at? No one has provided any update and seems extremely slow with replies... 

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GJB1954 said:

Land_Registry said:

GJB1954 said:

Land_Registry said:

GJB1954 said:

Land registry question . How do we find out if house is freehold. In 1986 a cheque was paid to a solicitors for transfer of leasehold to freehold. Other neighbours did the same. This was done due to cost of collecting leasehold charges etc.  Now selling house and it seems from land registry that no details of this has happened. Yet my neighbours managed to find their transfer etc. Please can you help 

I think you mean that they all bought their freeholds. If they did then some may have determined their lease by merging it with th3 freehold. They then have just a freehold property/title. 

If they didn’t merge then they’ll still have a freehold and leasehold but both in same name(s). 

If you paid a cheque then where’s the transfer? If you don’t have a transfer then it’s still owned by the seller presumably. 

And what’s registered? Both freehold and leasehold or just the latter? 

https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

I and a lot of my neighbours, took this offer to buy their own freehold. This was done for a fixed price for each property. My buyers solicitor on the records they have done searches for and sent to me   from yourselves . There is no details of freehold change. Yet there is details of my wife name being added in 2018. I only have a cheque payment stub with details of solicitor and amount paid to them in 1986. Which was about same time of offer for buying leasehold. My bank does not have details that far back. Is there a different record that the leasehold / freehold change may be on ? 

No hence if you bought the freehold you’d need a legal deed (transfer) which would then need to be registered 

I am not sure if you can answer this. Just after the cheque was paid for freehold. There are no further payments to the leasehold company. Who if anyone can I contact to find out why my leasehold / freehold was not changed. I would of thought that even though leasehold was small amount, letters would be sent for non payment ?

Find out why? - ask whoever was supposed to complete the transaction for you
If that’s not possible then you’d start with whoever still owns it