BBC Top Story. Diesel & Petrol cars banned from 2040

giraffe69

Complete BS, just the British Brainwashing Corporation paying their dues to the authorities and golfing buddies in big business.

You must have woken up in a bad mood. This story is in pretty much all the papers and online news services.

n217970

Herzlos wrote: »

But they won't - most people won't need to recharge every day and can use smart chargers to shift the load around. Half of the cars on the road don't stop at a petrol station at 5:30pm on the way home.

When you plug an EV in, you can normally set when you want it charged by, so most will charge at some point overnight. Most will probably only need charged once or twice a week.

We'll need to provide some new infrastructure, but it certainly won't be unmanageable.

The reason people are not all piling into petrol stations on the way home is because the car has a 500 mile range. When its only 100 then people will view it differently, you do you comute and have 50 miles left "oh I will top it up" - if you only had 50 miles of fuel in your car you would head to the fuel station no?

When people get home from work they stick the kettle on - pluging your car in will be the new habit.

Johno100

maximania wrote: »

We kill 40,000 people a year from toxic air pollution..is it time we faced up to that reality?

No we don't. There is a theoretical reduction in life span be it a week, a month or a year said to be due to pollution. So if you live till you're 90 and your life has been shortened by a week due to air pollution then you are one of the 40,000.

Car_54

wongataa wrote: »

Why would petrol stations have closed in 2041. How would we fuel all the ICE vehicles bought before 2040? It is not ban all petrol/diesel cars in 2040, just sales of new ones.

Petrol stations will start to close long before then, as the demand for fuel gradually decreases.

silverwhistle

Herzlos wrote: »

We're actually using slightly less electricity in general, but you are right in that a boost to EV usage will mean we'll need the additional infrastructure. It's a bit chicken and egg.

Quite, the peaks the grid has to cope with have actually gone down significantly. I've got solar panels and import only around a 1000kWh of electricity a year, and export more than that due to an efficient house and thinking about my usage. I'd look to replace my car with an EV or plug-in hybrid when it's due, but as it's only 8 years old and done 65k miles it'll be a little while before I do. Fortunately by then there should be a better second-hand market in EVs.

The point that a lot of the negative straw man argument people miss is that it's setting a direction and a target. Infrastructure builds gradually but at an accelerating pace as the need increases, but we've got to start somewhere.

theEnd

warehouse wrote: »

By 2040 the self driving cars will have done away with car ownership meaning far less vehicles on the roads anyway. In fact I'd say this will be the case well before 2030, let alone 2040.

This.
Time to stop pandering to the past.

maximania

Nobbie1967 wrote: »

That sounded wrong, so I googled it, turns out it's just propaganda from a manufacturer of electric vehicles.

Most of the energy used to refine petrol is not electricity.

greentransportation.info/energy-transportation/gasoline-costs-6kwh.html

I think we could post opposing links all day

parking_question_chap

theEnd wrote: »

This.
Time to stop pandering to the past.

I will ask the question again.

How are these "self driving cars" going to be powered? Scotch mist?

Self driving or human driving, the fact of the matter it still needs an energy source to get from point A to point B.

And if these "self driving cars" are going to exist, it must mean there is still a demand for people to get between the aforementioned points A and B.

henry24

Johno100 wrote: »

No we don't. There is a theoretical reduction in life span be it a week, a month or a year said to be due to pollution. So if you live till you're 90 and your life has been shortened by a week due to air pollution then you are one of the 40,000.

One thing that I don't understand about pollution is car exhausts used to be black at the end but I drive a 2.2L diesel and the exhaust is as clean after 30000 miles as it was when new.

Cornucopia

parking_question_chap wrote: »

I will ask the question again.

How are these "self driving cars" going to be powered? Scotch mist?

Having access to a pool of ready-charged self-driving cars may well be simpler for a lot of people than arranging their own vehicle, charging point and charging regime.