The Garden Fence - proper Old Style support and chat!

Nargleblast

Fuddle - you will not. You have got a ruddy great allotment to dig over for a start! Seriously, though, you are taking responsibility for your health and changing your diet to one of natural, healthy foods. That, plus keeping busy and getting enough sleep will go a long way to keeping you fit and well.

mardatha

I remember many years ago I read about a study done in California I think it was. Which showed that people eating low fat diets still died young and that a lot more of them got depression first. Suicide rate went up. Just eat food and keep moving and smiling and you'll be fine!

silvasava

Seems the best advice is the old ' everything in moderation'

pollyanna_26

Fuds I use a little extra virgin olive oil for roasting veg . Haven't eaten chips or roast potatoes for a long time . I prefer baked jackets .

For stews etc I sweat the veg first in a little stock .

You must be getting confused . I would listen to proper medical guidance according to your health needs . Not a bad dietician there are a few of them in hospitals . Youngest was asked by one some years ago if she had thought of eating an apple ????

She is a healthy eater as a vegetarian she has to be on the ball . She was on Metformin at the time and that was causing weight gain coupled with Steroids .

Been missing as life has been busy . I'm so happy things seem to be on the right track monna .

Thinking of all worried or struggling at the moment .

I'll confess that while I eat a balanced and healthy diet I am known in the family as the Lurpak girl . I don't think butter should receive such a bad press . It's more natural than many of the alternatives . The margarine available in the early 50s under rationing put me off for life .

Take care all .
polly x

monnagran

Lyn, you have put it beautifully. Not for anything would I want to go back to wartime conditions. My mother use to say that you cooked what you could get hold of, didn't inquire too closely what is was, fed your family and prayed.

Coming back to these days, when I cooked for the church lunch club up to 4 years ago, we had one vegetarian and a couple of diabetics. We had to hand out the diabetic puddings last because we discovered that folk were seeing what was on offer for the diabetics and if it looked more interesting than the standard pudding, there were suddenly a great many more diabetics in the room. Just for the day, you understand.

I was away for a year and when I came back things had changed markedly.
Now we have 2 vegetarians, 1 vegan, several gluten-free, 2 dairy-free, 1 allergic to onions, but no diabetics.

Of course we do our best to cater for everyone, obviously we don't want anyone keeling over before we can shovel them back into the volunteers' cars to be taken home, but when there are just 2 of us turning out a two-course meal for up to 60 odd, all cooked from scratch with the best ingredients we can afford, it doesn't half cause complications. It's all too common to see a cook frantically trying to fish every last scrap of onion out of a cottage pie because we forgot to make a separate one, or sending someone post haste to the nearest shop for some gluten free icecream.

I do sometimes wonder where all this came from and how we have survived thus far.

I am fully aware that true allergies exist and special diets are necessary. I have a close friend who is as allergic to apples as some people are to peanuts. If she eats something that has been prepared even on the same work top as an apple, it is an ambulance blue light job. So I am far from disbelieving these requirements but I do think that a lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon and it does a disservice to those who genuinely have to be careful.

Good night all. God bless.

ivyleaf

mardatha wrote: »

I use oilive oil and dripping and butter. I dont listen to experts because every few months they change their minds and everything that was bad for you is then good. lol.

That's exactly right mar!

Hard_Up_Hester

Eggs, first it was ' go to work on an egg' , then it was only the white that was safe to eat, then it was the salmonella scare, now it's back to ' eggs are good for you' .
I've always eaten a lot of eggs and whilst I may not be in perfect health I survived various health problems caused by abuse, I manage to walk 12000 steps along the towpath, hump coal and wood, manhandle my boat and chase the dgc.

Jazee

I think it is the job of scientists and experts to always be proving each other wrong or coming up with some other 'better' idea, otherwise there would be nothing for them to do.

fuddle

You're all older and wiser than I but this is one instance where I'll listen to what science suggests. We live in a time that is knowledge rich and I'd rather avoid known problem foods than pushing my luck. I've scaring on my lungs and mosr probably scarring on my heart now. I defy anyone not to panic when they're in their 30's.

The crux of it is there will be no more cooking with olive oil. I will, however, be using it cold in my beloved Med salad because it is a useful fat.

Given that the nurse and kittie, who continues to kindly guide me with my eating, both advocate the use of rapeseed oil for higher temp cooking, I spent some time last night researching and I feel confident in the switch.

I have spent a good few years eating natural, non messed with fats, subscribing to the primal/paleo vibe. While I still will eat non processed I think, given my age and elevated cholesterol already I think I would be an idiot, given the wonky heart too, if I didn't make some changes. Science has also brought to the forefront that fats aren't the only danger to heart health. Refined carbohydrates are becoming known to be causing problems. It is this that I find interesting because aside from flours (and we're they refined???) what refined carbs would our ancestors consume? Science fascinates me and scientists can rock on because science is what is getting to the bottom of what is going on with my health.

Jazee

I wasn't suggesting that scientific research shouldn't be followed Fuddle as discoveries are made all the time.

As someone who has been treated for an inherited heart condition discovered in my twenties, I know I am only alive now because of the drugs I take (diet alone won't help). It's a matter of finding the drugs which work for you and cause the least side effects. Diet wise, I have never added salt to anything, but I do indulge in sweet stuff sometimes.