The Garden Fence - proper Old Style support and chat!

Nargleblast

Yes, Fuddle, refined carbs are an issue. Years ago people were told to eat plenty of pasta, rice and bread for a healthy diet - even people with diabetes have been encouraged to eat this stuff, especially the wholewheat versions. No wonder the incidence of diabetes has rocketed over the years. My OH got a healthy diet leaflet from the surgery the other day. Now the advised healthy food plate contains 50% veg and salad, so some improvement there at last. As many have said, moderation is the key.

I have been a bit wary of rapeseed oil but reading the post of kittie I might take her advice and switch to the cold pressed variety for cooking.

Hester - agree re the eggs thing. A while back it was the fashion amongst Hollywood stars to eat egg white omelettes - for the love of Mike (who is Mike..) WHY?????

Slinky

My MIL always goes on about her very elderly next door neighbour who she dislikes......... I don't know how he survives, he has a terrible diet, 2 dozen eggs and full fat milk delivered every week.....

Could that be the reason he's doing so well!

Floss

Fuddle remember that during rationing & the only bread or flour being the National type (with nothing taken out) Britain was healthy. Also, until the fancy expensive refined white flour came into fashion our ancestors would have eaten cheaper bread from wholemeal flour. Prior to the incoming of wheat it would have been made from the "ancient" grains of spelt etc.

fuddle

Each to their own.

It is in my character to identify a problem and work to fix it. It's astounding really given my mam was an alcoholic and didn't have the strength to face anything.

I like learning about food and health. I've completely eradicated GORD these past 6 months through diet alone. I could have had and pill and continued to eat problem foods but I didn't. For what it's worth A1 dairy caused me a lot of problems. A2 (goats milk) is much more tolerated by me. Interestingly A2 milk is close to breast milk. Now that bit of science is quite interesting to me and entirely relevant to my health.

One of my hobbies is reading about the science behind food and health. I was on the right track with using olive oil but I had no idea that it changed when heated. Now I know and can alter things accordingly.

I think there is a lot in what Lyn was saying about choice today compared to yesteryear and we are lucky that we can choose, if we wish, to consume items from around the world that science has deemed healthy. That's easy! But I'm not from the Mediterranean so my next challenge is to work out how to eat better with the food we produce on UK soil and actually learn about the cooking habits of yesteryear... did they fry and roast? Like I say, It's my hobby and I find it all very interesting.

Thanks floss I'll look into spelt.

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fuddle I need to be completely open, I have been skirting an issue because I know that what is happening is scarey. My husband had myocarditis at just 40, it affected his lungs, he had scarring and he struggled with the help of asthma and copd drugs. He died when he was almost 68 because he was cycling up a hill, with heart failure. The heart failure got worse over time but I encouraged him in his absolute love of cycling, his club activities and so on, he would have been bereft if I had said to just do slow hobbies, he was a fit athlete, always had been. In the end I gave him the choice, took any guilt away from him. He always said that I kept him alive and that he would want to go suddenly, on his beloved bike

One day and for the first time in his life, he came back from the doctors with blood pressure drugs, he was 67, no heart drugs ever before then. Suddenly he had symptoms he never had before and one day almost collapsed outside the house, he plopped into a chair and I gave him a sweet snack and took his bp. It was dangerously low and his heart rate too fast. I rang the gp and he rang me back later, the heart rate had reduced and bp increased to a safer level. I got him into the doctor, not the one who had given the drug in the first place but the one that everyone trusted, he immediately reduced the dosage to 1/4. Exactly what I thought it should be

Strangely on the day that he died, heart failed on his bike, air ambulance involved, he actually died in hospital, the first doctor rang me, why? however I will never take this further, life is as it is and we have a time to be born and a time to die. While studying at age 35, I did a lot about iatrogenics and epigenetics and thank heavens that I learnt what I did, it has stood me (and my family) in good stead

So fuddle, you will learn to live with this, to adapt and to cope and will likely see your grandchildren

monnagran

I have come to the conclusion that diet is a purely personal business. I'm sure we can all quote instances of people we know who broke all the rules and lived to a happy, healthy old age.. Equally we know people who were as pure as the driven snow, never letting a gram of sugar or processed gunk pass their lips and who never lived to collect their bus pass.

From what I have seen of it, extreme old age has little to commend it and is certainly not my goal in life. However, what life I do have left I want to spend as happily as possible so will continue to be careful without being obsessive. I bear in mind my own father, whose strong, healthy body kept him going for about 2 years after his mind and enjoyment of life had largely departed.

Yesterday evening I wandered along our beach as the sun was setting. Everything was still, I could see a lone dog walker in the distance, seagulls very busy in the rock pools and a couple of liners on the horizon taking their cargo off to tropical climes. I felt so blessed to be there, in that place and at that peaceful time.
It's these magical moments that get me through more testing times and I treasure them.

THOUGHT FOR TODAY

The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched.
They must be felt with the heart.

fuddle

Now I understand why you've been helping me kittie and I thank you for working through what must have been painful reminders to make sure I am ok. What you have done is allowed me the trigger to cry and hopefully I can soon move on. x

mardatha

Meanwhile I've gone off my feed and am living on Complan. Which I dono if it's a good thing or not

fuddle

Mar are you still not well?

Floss you beauty. spelt. I've been learning. You had me with the word ancient. I might not cope with it as a grain but my family will. I'm going to try this https://www.shipton-mill.com/baking/recipes/spelt-sourdough-levain.htm a 3 day spelt sourdough. The fermentation might aid ease on my digestion. It's worth a try!

May I apologise for getting a bit worked up on here of late. Everything is just a bit raw. I'm battling with my mood as well so I'm aware I can come across as being snappy or forceful.

mrsmac10

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Aren't we lucky to live in an age when we can have the great debate over which of the plethora of available ingredients is less dangerous to use? Three generations ago we were at war and on rationing and the only thought in most housewives minds was actually getting enough of anything they could to feed a hungry family, no matter how good bad or indifferent it was, I guess if it stopped for long enough you ate it! I wonder what our Grandma's and Great grandma's would make of food today?

Did you watch Back in time for tea Ok it skipped lots but I liked it A bit of reminiscing and remembering its easy to be complacent when you know things are going to improve

I recall my widowed grannie trying to makes ends meet but always had a wee stash of toffees which she shared

Times were tough