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BWLegal - the list of failures growing

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,173 Forumite
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    Why don't you simply read the sticky thread near the top of this forum, for NEWBIES?

    Don't ask where it is...I don't carry the signature below for fun!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • I have read it, I have worked through it several times in fact.

    Trouble is, it spiders off into other threads (to send people to appropriate advice), and each time I go down one of those avenues I find people advising me to be careful because it's "old advice". It was actually doing precisely that which led me to this thread.

    Maybe I am doing something wrong, I don't claim to be perfect, but I certainly have read the Newbie thread (I refer back to it constantly, it's open in my browser constantly)
    Combatting the pandemic of BWLegal-19, one 'notice of discontinuance' at a time. :-)
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    I have read it, I have worked through it several times in fact.

    Trouble is, it spiders off into other threads (to send people to appropriate advice), and each time I go down one of those avenues I find people advising me to be careful because it's "old advice". It was actually doing precisely that which led me to this thread.

    Maybe I am doing something wrong, I don't claim to be perfect, but I certainly have read the Newbie thread (I refer back to it constantly, it's open in my browser constantly)

    There are some outdated comments around.
    This thread is not outdated and was done simply to demonstrate the failures of BWLegal and where they go wrong
  • Thanks BG. Subscribing and will add to my reading list for my upcoming court claim from BW Legal.
    Combatting the pandemic of BWLegal-19, one 'notice of discontinuance' at a time. :-)
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    Thanks BG. Subscribing and will add to my reading list for my upcoming court claim from BW Legal.

    And if BWLegal are scamming you with a fake £60, read this

    12th June 2019
    Southampton court threw out a case from BWLegal because of Abuse of Process regarding the fake BWLegal add-on. READ ALL ABOUT IT .... POST #10
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/75917866#Comment_75917866
  • Well this is another point of confusion for me, I am not actually sure whether they are doing that or not.
    This is what they claim is "statement of account"
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    But this is what they threaten I "may" have to pay at court:

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    So I suspect AT court they will try that trick, but not sure I can argue it until then. I can prepare though. :)
    Combatting the pandemic of BWLegal-19, one 'notice of discontinuance' at a time. :-)
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    edited 13 June 2019 at 12:16PM
    Well this is another point of confusion for me, I am not actually sure whether they are doing that or not.
    This is what they claim is "statement of account"
    GoF3xZ.jpg

    But this is what they threaten I "may" have to pay at court:

    8W3IZe.jpg

    So I suspect AT court they will try that trick, but not sure I can argue it until then. I can prepare though. :)

    There it is .... £60 debt collector costs ??? BIG NO NO

    If you carefully read what the District Judge said at Southampton

    "The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the defendant contracted to pay, This additional charge is not recoverable under the protection of freedoms act 2012, Schedule 4 not with reference to the judgement in parking eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover"

    BWL claim debt collectors charge, contractual charge, whatever takes their fancy at the time

    The interest of £27 will be up to the JUDGE to decide but as it has been calculated on £160 which includes £60 fake add-on, we come back to ABUSE OF PROCESS.
    That is what the judge wants to hear
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,392 Forumite
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    There it is .... £60 debt collector costs ??? BIG NO NO
    @OP. Check out the website of the debt collector the PPC has involved in your case and you will find that their terms of engagement with the PPC include the confirmation 'No collection, no fee'.

    That will be useful evidence when arguing against the £60 add-on.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • didgeridoooo
    didgeridoooo Posts: 366 Forumite
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    Two excellent posts, I really do appreciate it. I will make a note of both points in my "defence" doc!!
    Combatting the pandemic of BWLegal-19, one 'notice of discontinuance' at a time. :-)
  • didgeridoooo
    didgeridoooo Posts: 366 Forumite
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    PS - was it DRP or Zenith who's site you looked at.?
    Combatting the pandemic of BWLegal-19, one 'notice of discontinuance' at a time. :-)
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