The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

chris_m

Pyxis wrote: »

Pastures, I saw this on the funny/peculiar thread and thought you might appreciate it.....

Ooh, you are wicked - but I like it :rotfl:

ivyleaf

I read something rather grim/sad on mumsnet the other day. It was a thread about that report that said a lot of girls had been harassed when wearing their school uniform. People started remembering how they had worn their jumpers even in hot weather (my own DD2 did that) so that the boys couldn't see their bras, and one poster asked her daughter "Do boys still ping bra straps?"
The daughter said "No," and her mother started to say "Oh good," then her daughter continued "They ask us to give them blow jobs in the corridors." :eek:

chris_m

ivyleaf wrote: »

one poster asked her daughter "Do boys still ping bra straps?"
The daughter said "No," and her mother started to say "Oh good," then her daughter continued "They ask us to give them blow jobs in the corridors." :eek:

Don't schools have bike sheds nowadays?

ivyleaf

Chris Yes, very droll, but it's not an amusing state of affairs really, now is it?

PasturesNew

There was a TV programme recently, which I didn't watch

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/spying-on-my-family/episode-guide/

One family gets to see into every corner of each other's lives, with every social media post and text message laid bare and cameras tracking their every move

And what a Chelmsford couple discovered their sons were doing
https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/spying-family-chelmsford-family-horrified-1972531

A Chelmsford police officer who opened his doors to TV cameras to spy on his family was horrified after discovering his two sons watching “soft !!!!!!”.

During the program, the camera crews follow Ryan, 14, to the park with his friends where they capture the group having “sexual banter."

At one point, one of the friends goes to defecate in the bushes, even though there is a public toilet nearby.

“I think everything happens for a reason and you expect your children to behave in a certain way and when that doesn’t happen it is devastating. I’m quite an old-fashioned dad and I didn’t bring my boys up to act like toerags or these boys you see on the streets,” Rob added.

PasturesNew

pyxis wrote: »

pastures, i saw this on the funny/peculiar thread and thought you might appreciate it.....

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LydiaJ

ivyleaf wrote: »

I read something rather grim/sad on mumsnet the other day. It was a thread about that report that said a lot of girls had been harassed when wearing their school uniform. People started remembering how they had worn their jumpers even in hot weather (my own DD2 did that) so that the boys couldn't see their bras, and one poster asked her daughter "Do boys still ping bra straps?"

Beats me why any school still has girls wearing white shirts as school uniform. They're almost always thin enough that bras are visible.

ivyleaf wrote: »

The daughter said "No," and her mother started to say "Oh good," then her daughter continued "They ask us to give them blow jobs in the corridors." :eek:

They ask for more than that. A friend told me recently that some girls in her daughter's peer group apparently go along with the boys' requests as long as they concern *any* orifice other than the, err, conventional one, because they think that means they're still virgins.

Consent is so complicated. I was struck by that when I saw the televised interview with Stormy Daniels, about her "encounter" with The Donald.

Stormy Daniels: I asked him if I could use his restroom and he said, "Yes, you know, it's through those-- through the bedroom, you'll see it." So I-- I excused myself and I went to the-- the restroom. You know, I was in there for a little bit and came out and he was sitting, you know, on the edge of the bed when I walked out, perched.

Anderson Cooper: And when you saw that, what went through your mind?

Stormy Daniels: I realized exactly what I'd gotten myself into. And I was like, "Ugh, here we go." (LAUGH) And I just felt like maybe-- (LAUGH) it was sort of-- I had it coming for making a bad decision for going to someone's room alone and I just heard the voice in my head, "well, you put yourself in a bad situation and bad things happen, so you deserve this."

Anderson Cooper: And you had sex with him.

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: You were 27, he was 60. Were you physically attracted to him?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Not at all?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Did you want to have sex with him?

Stormy Daniels: No. But I didn't-- I didn't say no. I'm not a victim, I'm not--

Anderson Cooper: It was entirely consensual.

Stormy Daniels: Oh, yes, yes.

She has absolutely no idea what consent is. She doesn't understand that even if you do go to a guy's room, you still have a right to say no. What is the world coming to? How can we expect adolescents to understand consent when the adults in the news don't? I mean, she's been a p0rn actress for years, so maybe she has reason to feel it's normal to feel under an obligation to fulfil a guy's expectations and therefore to sleep with someone even when you don't want to. But why did nobody pick her up on that? I can't remember hearing that any of the countless news organisations that broadcast bits of that interview even mentioned it. How does that square with "me too"?

GDB2222

It's belting down with rain right now, which is not a problem as we are indoors, but DS is taking part in the half marathon at Wimbledon. They are all going to get very cold, plus it's going to be very slippery.

We were going to watch him finish, but I'm not sure we can summon up the willpower!

SingleSue

I go on the Student room forum a lot and the expectations/attitudes now are horrendous. A girl not wanting to 'put out' is not suitable girlfriend material, is frigid, ripe to be made an object of ridicule, a girl not wanting to give a blow job is not worthy etc etc.

My niece had an issue with her (now ex) boyfriend. He said all the right things about respecting her, about being willing to wait until she was ready but when they got a couple of dates in and she still hadn't slept with him, dropped her like a stone and told all his mates that she was frigid, who in turn told all of their mates and before she knew it, it was around the school that she was frigid and she became persona non grata and someone to be bullied.


She had only just turned 16 at the time.

CKhalvashi

SingleSue wrote: »

I go on the Student room forum a lot and the expectations/attitudes now are horrendous. A girl not wanting to 'put out' is not suitable girlfriend material, is frigid, ripe to be made an object of ridicule, a girl not wanting to give a blow job is not worthy etc etc.

My niece had an issue with her (now ex) boyfriend. He said all the right things about respecting her, about being willing to wait until she was ready but when they got a couple of dates in and she still hadn't slept with him, dropped her like a stone and told all his mates that she was frigid, who in turn told all of their mates and before she knew it, it was around the school that she was frigid and she became persona non grata and someone to be bullied.


She had only just turned 16 at the time.

The lack of respect generally by kids these days is shocking, hopefully it’ll change again soon.