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  • vivatifosi
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    edited 1 August 2018 at 4:46AM
    Pastures, if she is constantly searching for human interaction, that could be neglect, especially under the circumstances you describe. Although many neglected children are withdrawn, which she clearly isn't, she has no ability to read social cues, which she should be learning from her parents.

    You don't have to report neglect to the police or social services, you could also have a conversation with the NSPCC along the lines of "I'm not sure if this child is being neglected, but this is what is happening" and take it from there. Their free helpline is 0808 800 5000.

    https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing-abuse/child-abuse-and-neglect/neglect/

    Most people here think that there is something wrong with what is happening, so it isn't just you. Reporting what you've seen will help put your mind at rest. If they as the experts think she needs help, then they can facilitate this. That helpline is for circumstances just like this.

    My mum saw a child being hit by their mum at a bus stop.. a different case, certainly. She followed her on to the bus, saw where she went to and reported it. She didn't hear anything else, but at least had the peace of mind that someone else knew.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • Pyxis
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    edited 1 August 2018 at 6:04AM
    I think you're right, V. It could well be neglect.
    Plus the child is putting herself into potentially dangerous situations, so what you suggest is good advice.

    Just wondering......... is there a type of 'condition' which is the converse of autism, that might also explain her behaviour? **
    Even if so, she would still need more parental supervision than she appears to be getting.






    Edit......crossed posts with Pastures.

    Sounds like she may well go into care soon.



    ** edit......please see later post re. Williams Syndrome.
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  • Pyxis
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    Yes, there's something very, very wrong there.

    Do you ever see either of her parents?
    If so, do you think they might be drug-takers?
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  • Pyxis
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    Goodness gracious!


    If they both work, I wonder what happens in the holidays? I mean, maybe they try to keep her in, and she keeps escaping?
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  • Pyxis
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    edited 1 August 2018 at 6:02AM
    Been googling....... there is a condition called Williams Syndrome, where people can be too outgoing, too interactive, too trusting, and so can put them]selves into dangerous situations.

    https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/williams-syndrome


    There are physical manifestations too.......

    Do any of these physical characteristics fit the bill, perhaps?.......


    "Young children with Williams syndrome have distinctive facial features including a broad forehead, a short nose with a broad tip, full cheeks, and a wide mouth with full lips. Many affected people have dental problems such as teeth that are small, widely spaced, crooked, or missing. In older children and adults, the face appears longer and more gaunt."

    Other physical problems are more hidden...cardiovascular and connective tissue problems.




    More info here...
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/brain-sense/201008/the-brains-language-processing-in-williams-syndrome-and-autism


    Children with this have a low IQ, but a very good ability to converse and express themselves, which belies their low IQ.
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  • Pyxis
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    edited 1 August 2018 at 6:33AM
    Been doing more reading up on Williams Syndrome.

    It's quite interesting.

    And yes, they often prefer interacting with adults.

    They also suffer with anxiety a lot, and can have co-morbidities like ADHD, and so temper tantrums and the like.



    If she does have Williams Syndrome, I'm starting to really feel for the parents.
    Autism is pretty well understood these days, and usually if a parent explains that their child's behaviour is due to autism, most people will understand, but Williams Syndrome? Never heard of it before just now! Yet it affects 1:10-20,000 children in the USA, apparently, boys and girls equally.
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  • vivatifosi
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    Crikey, what a horrible situation... for her, the parents, the neighbours... at least someone is onto it.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • GDB2222
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    For such a "small" sum I'd just like it dealt with. The plastic bag fitting is "chavvy" and I deserve better for my final months :)

    I have a little man attending to all these odd jobs.... so that's it. It'll bring me a little joy each day that I don't have to grope around inside a plastic bag .... and then have to just press it all back in place etc.

    You'll make it all so nice that you won't want to leave. :/
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • PasturesNew
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    You'll make it all so nice that you won't want to leave. :/

    I'm making the most of what I've got ... and get to live in a "finished house" for 6 months :)

    The man is coming anyway - to do "essentials" and at his hourly rate it's worth 1-2 hours of work to tack on another bunch of "would be nice to" items too. Once you've got somebody doing, say, 1.5 days' work, might as well make 2 days work for them and "get it all done".

    And, if he's any good ..... then he can arrive at the new house on Day 2 .... and do that one too :)
  • ivyleaf
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    I'm really glad you've finally found a "little man", Pastures :)
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