The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

ukmaggie45

Dear Pastures, sorry about unhappiness.

I think you have planning permission for extension? That might be a good selling point?

Let me know if you want me to remove any part of this post, or the whole of it.

Best wishes to you and the best of luck from Liverpool. Maggie.

LydiaJ

Sending cyberhugs to PN.

Here's hoping your plan works out successfully with the desired result.

ukmaggie45

Come up to Liverpool dear PN - kids here get told off if they pi55 off the neighbours. Housing cheap compared to most of the country too. OH would be only too happy to give you a hand I'm sure. He's not the greatest in practical terms, but he tries! LOL. I'd be really happy to have you as a neighbour. Feel sick that you're having so many problems.

chris_m

Crikey, that sounds an absolute nightmare. No wonder you've made your decision.

But how can you ensure that you don't move to a similar situation? Find a house with own gardens/drive (and either fenced off or with nothing to prevent you doing it) on a road rather than in a "development"?

Pyxis

I'm so sorry, Pastures, that it has come to this.
Especially given the expense.

BUT, in the long run, you will probably be a lot happier.
As you say, with clearly defined boundaries, it will be a lot easier to define your rights.

Will you stay in the same area do you think?

I must admit, hearing what you've had to put up with stressed me, and I'm not even in the situation! so it must be hell on Earth to actually be in the middle of it all.



(Ps. Am sending you a PM, so don't be alarmed! )

PasturesNew

chris_m wrote: »

But how can you ensure...

Good fences make good neighbours they say.
Nothing open plan... even a numbered spot outside your front door's not good enough if you can't prevent it being used as a skatepark by a dozen unknown/unruly kids 4-5 hours/day and 10 hours on weekends.

If you looked out of your window and saw somebody doing wheelies across your grass right now .... if it's open plan you can't stop it. You can shout "OI", but if they don't care they'll bring their mates back every night and all do it if they know it annoys you. If you can put up a bush/fence, or shut your gate, then they won't do it and you don't have to engage with them. They do it because all they see is open space (vehicles being in the way don't matter)

Pyxis

Yes, open plan can be a strange concept.

It's fundamentally alien to human nature!

Look what happens on the beach....... everyone stakes their claim to their 'spot', demarcating it with rugs and chairs etc, and woe-betide anyone else who pitches too close!

Wherever we are, we make boundaries, so even though open plan might look aesthetically pleasing, it can really cause problems!

It might be ok if everyone is over a certain age and doesn't want to do gardening! Even then you can have people taking shortcuts over someone else's bit! Grrrrr!
Planners and developers really should be forced to live for a time in the properties they design and allow!

Pyxis

PasturesNew wrote: »

To be honest I "shut down" online ...

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Oh Pastures. :A:A :A :A

((((((((((Pastures)))))))))))))

You can't live like that. You'll get ill.
Yes, you have to move.



One bit of silver lining........while you're decluttering, you'll probably find that electric screwdriver............

PasturesNew

Pyxis wrote: »

One bit of silver lining........while you're decluttering, you'll probably find that electric screwdriver............

There's always something to look forward to isn't there

I can't say discovering the screwdriver's overly useful/exciting as I'm not gifted in the DIY dept ... but I'd like to see it again for peace of mind.

PasturesNew

As for the cost of moving, I've always had it in my head that I would move one day, so I'd have had to get round to paying for that at some point, I just expected to jump rather than be pushed.

If things hadn't been as they have been, I'd have probably stuck around here another 5 years or so.

Indeed, it's probably doing me a favour as the differential between buying another house in the next year will be smaller than if I leave it... so I can afford more today than if I leave it 5 years "drifting".

So, probably good - and maybe I should've done this last year instead of trying to "stick with the bed I made" and go down the PP route/waste of time.