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The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.

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  • ivyleaf
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    That was brilliant PN. Well done for coping. I hope that doesn't sound patronising, it isn't meant to.
  • GDB2222
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    This 7 degrees of connection theory - I know, personally, the vet who provided the rescue dog to 10 Downing Street. That makes me 3 connections away from the Prime Minister, and to make it even cooler, one of those connections is a dog!
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • michaels
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    I would offer 275 on the 290k one and mention to the agent that you might be able to go a little higher - explain that although renovated there is still the artex and knock through that need doing.

    The electric wiring might come up from the floor so you might still be able to take the wall down behind the cooker and have it as part of a breakfast bar.
    I think....
  • GDB2222
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    michaels wrote: »
    I would offer 275 on the 290k one and mention to the agent that you might be able to go a little higher - explain that although renovated there is still the artex and knock through that need doing.

    The electric wiring might come up from the floor so you might still be able to take the wall down behind the cooker and have it as part of a breakfast bar.

    Personally, as a seller, I've never been positively influenced by arguments such as "I have to allow money in my offer to remove the Artex." The thought that goes through my mind is that the Artex was good enough for me, so why should I pay for your foibles?

    Just make me an offer, and I'll consider it. Just the bottom line figure.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Sunshinemummy
    Sunshinemummy Posts: 17,377 Forumite
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Personally, as a seller, I've never been positively influenced by arguments such as "I have to allow money in my offer to remove the Artex." The thought that goes through my mind is that the Artex was good enough for me, so why should I pay for your foibles?

    Just make me an offer, and I'll consider it. Just the bottom line figure.

    Many people want to know that their home will be loved by a nice person... others are not bothered.... you get the best deal by figuring this out very quickly!
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  • GDB2222
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    edited 4 September 2019 at 9:01PM
    Many people want to know that their home will be loved by a nice person... others are not bothered.... you get the best deal by figuring this out very quickly!

    I like the idea of buyers spending money "loving" the house. Their money, please, not mine. :)

    Seriously, if I thought the Artex needed removing, I'd have done it and had the benefit whilst I lived in the house. Why should I pay for you to have that work done for your benefit?

    Fundamentally, the point is that the sale offer price reflects the current condition of the house. If I had removed the Artex, I'd be asking more.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • GDB2222 wrote: »
    I like the idea of buyers spending money "loving" the house. Their money, please, not mine. :)

    Seriously, if I thought the Artex needed removing, I'd have done it and had the benefit whilst I lived in the house. Why should I pay for you to have that work done for your benefit?

    Fundamentally, the point is that the sale offer price reflects the current condition of the house. If I had removed the Artex, I'd be asking more.

    If you removed the Artex.......you could have asked for more!!

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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  • For the record, the Wide Awake Club has been open since about 3am.

    Been out for a wander in the dark, round the garden path, but got halted as I could see a "blob" on the path... which I knew was a hedgehog, so didn't want to tread on him, frighten him, or accidentally kick him.

    I just watched last night's Grand Designs (that was rubbish). I'm sure last night's episode was them promoting their canal boat business, else why go into such a description.

    I'd never build on a SW clifftop.... even in Cornwall that's risking it and the weather's generally better/warmer. To build on a bleak Scottish clifftop is madness! Even if the house is secured down there might be evenings when you simply can't drive home as the access road has a gale blowing across it that'd flip your car over. And, how are you getting from the car to the front door in that bad/windy weather? I'm presuming there must be some hidden underground garage they didn't ever mention, or is it a walk?

    I would build on that plot it was lovely, but the house they built was horrific, what a waste of such a beautiful plot. And those flipping rocks... OMG.

    The parking area was protected from the wind...so you would only have to worry about the drive to the house... but I am sure it does not get that bad, that often!
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  • PasturesNew
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    The parking area was protected from the wind...so you would only have to worry about the drive to the house... but I am sure it does not get that bad, that often!

    I bet it's windy most of the time... and horrifically windy many days all year round. I bet they end up in there, sometimes, choosing to stay indoors for a week until the weather dies down enough for them to be able to face stepping outside :)

    Weather can break the soul. Dreams of idyllic dog walking dashed by perpetual howling westerly winds... and in Scotland, where it's not known for its mild climate.

    That wind has travelled thousands of miles... thousands ... and the FIRST thing it hits when it makes landfall is: your house.
  • Sunshinemummy
    Sunshinemummy Posts: 17,377 Forumite
    Took a drive out yesterday. Had a viewing on something I knew was unsuitable... one I wanted in that road completed at £245k in April and was bigger/better all round... the one I viewed was entirely wrong, very dated, smaller and they're asking £260k. It's not price, even at £200k that house could never tick the boxes... agent tried to make out the area behind would be "tidied", I researched it and it's a full blown boat building yard that's about to change hands... so it's most likely to increase its boat building activities.

    I then drove around "spotting" some on my list.

    1/ Dismissed one, didn't like a lot about the road/area.
    2/ Discovered 3 new builds I'd dismissed, now I know where they are I am still dismissing them for the original reason
    3/ Spotted one on the list, still unexcited by it.
    4/ Checked out the best value for money, that road's not for me, it was worse than I could've imagined for stray pasty-faced scruffy loiterers, more cars than you could shake a stick at parked everywhere, too many unkempt stray children loitering about and the traffic to even get to it on the dual carriageway was at a standstill both times I drove along.
    5/ Dismissed another, it wasn't quite where I'd imagined - and the location was worse than what got it onto the list.

    I also drove to a "maybe area" - I felt it was a "bit out on a limb" and it doesn't have good buses, but was only 2 miles from an OK area... got there and realised the straggle of houses were too cut off for me. :)

    I also drove by one I'd "missed but dismissed", next to a new build estate their plans had shown the area as part of the estate, a long green strip of grass and footpath to the road. I'd thought "that's the only green space, with 2-3 trees planted, that's where ALL the kids will gravitate towards. Bizarrely, when I saw it, that land seems to have been added to the bungalow plot... and there's clearance going on already - so either the developers bought it themselves to redevelop/build there, or an established developer's eyed it up for awhile and bought the land from the new development and snapped up the bungalow too. Something "out of my ability" is clearly going on there anyway though.

    My list of potential houses I could possibly like and afford is now narrowed down to: 0.

    :)

    Do you need to buy straight away? Is there other options like renting/staying with friends/family, which could bridge the gap!
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