Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

A question for gfplux:

How do you feel about Luxembourg's fall in 2017 world rankings for the world's best country from 14th last year to 17th this year?
Or from Europe's generally poor performance with most nations losing at least one place - whilst the UK remains in third position as it was last year and despite current difficulties?
The UK is ahead of Germany you will note, and also ahead of all other EU27 nations.
Are you yet beginning to further regret your decision to leave the UK?

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

gfplux

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

A question for gfplux:

How do you feel about Luxembourg's fall in 2017 world rankings for the world's best country from 14th last year to 17th this year?
Or from Europe's generally poor performance with most nations losing at least one place - whilst the UK remains in third position as it was last year and despite current difficulties?
The UK is ahead of Germany you will note, and also ahead of all other EU27 nations.
Are you yet beginning to further regret your decision to leave the UK?

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list

I am devastated, I think I must rush down to the (French) beach, 150 meters away and swim out in to the med and............never think about it again.

By the way this is THE agenda for Monday in Brussels
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/agenda_2nd_round_for_press.pdf

I will be on the beach. Hope to catch the press Conference.

Politico have more details

http://www.politico.eu/article/the-agenda-for-the-first-full-round-of-brexit-negotiations/?utm_source=POLITICO.EU&utm_campaign=58b47d4aff-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_07_14&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_10959edeb5-58b47d4aff-190026745

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Ballard wrote: »

Congratulations. It's been several pages since someone put this utterly idiotic comment.

You really don't get it do you? Some people think that we are better off inside the EU and others think that we will thrive outside. I completely understand that. It doesn't mean that everyone who voted to remain wants to live elsewhere. We just think that the UK would have been better off in a variety of ways by staying.

Is it an "idiotic comment" just because you disagree with it?

If someone is similarly as unhappy with their job (or indeed house, car etc. etc.) as those with such derogatory opinions of the UK & Brexit, would you not suggest that they either look for a new job (house, car etc.) or put up and shut up?

No I am not suggesting that all those who voted to remain part of the EU should therefore leave the UK or even that they cease espousing their opinions.
Perhaps though such repeated belligerent vehemence against the democratic vote evokes the "move" response just as it would in regard to similar sentiment with work, housing etc. as suggested earlier.

If you don’t like something, change it. If you can’t change it, change your attitude.


Maya Angelou

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

That is why most of the 27 EU believe in the EU rather more that Britain ever has.

Most isn't all.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Conversely British exports are so much cheaper, has this turbo charged growth in exports?

How would the fall in the exchange rate alone boost exports?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

I am devastated, I think I must rush down to the (French) beach, 150 meters away and swim out in to the med and............never think about it again.

I know that this matches the current standard of your responses, but you really cannot find a more sensible response than that?

Your own national media reported on similar last year yet this is beneath your consideration?
When (despite what you try to tell us) Luxembourg is in fact far from being superior to the UK?

Luxembourg lost especially in criteria concerning business efficiency--namely with regards to high wages, a below-average number of annual working hours and a lack of women in the labour market.

https://www.wort.lu/en/luxembourg/world-competitiveness-ranking-2016-luxembourg-falls-from-the-top-10-574d4342ac730ff4e7f6138c

gfplux

This from politico.eu Brexit email.

"Officially, next week’s second round of Brexit negotiations are supposed to bite off Britain’s financial obligations, the rights of EU citizens residing in the U.K. and the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice.

But according to half a dozen officials briefed on the talks, the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, has another hand to play when he meets his counterpart, U.K. Brexit Secretary David Davis, on Monday: discussing the thorny issue of the EU’s import quotas."

It goes on at length about this "thorny issue" but it would be unfair to copy and paste it all.
More probably will be appearing in British media as I believe this is not intended as a Monday morning trap but Barnier wants Davis prepared.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

That is why most of the 27 EU believe in the EU rather more that Britain ever has.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Most isn't all.

Indeed so, which is why for example Geert Wilders' PVV is now Holland's second-largest party and also at least in part why government has not yet been formed four months after their election.
It is also why France why saw such a huge abstention rate in their recent election:

French Vote Shows Anti-EU Sentiment

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2017-04-25/french-vote-shows-anti-eu-sentiment-video

BobQ

BobQ wrote: »

Thank you for providing a source for my statistic. As I said imports of French cheese are 25% down which this confirms.

Its reassuring that imports of cheddar, edam and gouda are up. Maybe people are just buying cheaper cheese.:)

Rinoa wrote: »

I think you've misread the stats. Cheddar imports are down, specialty cheeses, presumably French and more expensive, are up.

Agreed I misread the cheddar stats and Cheddar is down. Is that good?

But while speciality cheeses are up French speciality cheeses are down 25%. Its in your referenced link https://dairy.ahdb.org.uk/market-information/processing-trade/imports-exports/uk-dairy-imports/#.WWoUW4WcEcC

Cumulative imports of Cheddar stood at 15,922 tonnes to the end of March, a decrease of 3,438 tonnes (18%) from the previous year. Imports from the Netherlands, Denmark and New Zealand were cut significantly, down by around 65% from the same period last year. Imports from Ireland fell by 6%.

Overall, cumulative imports of speciality cheese were up by 1,882 tonnes (2%) compared to the same period last year. Ireland, Denmark and the Netherlands increased total imports in the period, while imports from France were down by around 25%. Imports of fresh cheese decreased year-on-year, but imports of grated and processed cheeses grew.!

So we seem to be buying more processed cheeses and not from France

Sapphire

Ballard wrote: »

I suppose that everyone has a choice. You can try to put unimaginably dreadful things like this behind you and move on or you can hold a grudge and blame the descendants of those who supported the Nazis. I can't be sure how I would react had I experienced it but I take strength from my ex's family who had the fortitude to move on and start a new life without letting their anger eat them.

My family are not Jewish but they fought actively/were wounded/lost close family in Warsaw during the Second World War.

You talk about holding grudges – but Germany has had ambitions to rule empires for a very long time. It occupied my parents' and grandparents' country (with horrendous cruelty, along with Russia) for more than a century before the First World War, as well as during the Second World War. Unfortunately, my family were very badly affected by what happened to them and their closest relations, and that's been passed down to their children and grandchildren. It's all very well saying forget and move on, chill, etc, but it's not easy and sometimes impossible, if experiences have been traumatic enough. My aunt – an academic and by no means stupid – couldn't even listen to anyone speaking the German language until the 1980s.

I'm sorry if you'd like to believe otherwise, but nations do each have their own character, which tends to prevail, and to resurface…