Petition:Disallow mobile networks from not including 0870 calls from inclusive mins

peterbaker

Contrary to what has been said by a previous poster, this has everything to do with Gordon Brown.

He is the man that told the City of London a couple of years ago that he believed in a "light touch on regulation" so as not to stifle business.

Such sentiments might still just about have been properly appreciated by gentlemen of the City thirty years ago but unfortunately it was taken by the spivs that populate today's City as a green light to Carry On Extorting.

As the norm now, those spivs employ weak-minded erks to do their dirty business and propagandise and dissemble on their behalf. They control fund management, fuel prices, supermarket prices, aviation prices, telecoms prices, bank charges and most of all else we need or want to spend our money on, and the daft thing is that the public sector copies their methods!

So you end up with cartels both sides of every street, p*ss-poor Customer Service as a UK plc worldwide trademark, your pension down the drain, one financial services scandal after another ad nauseam (i.e. pensions misselling, endowment scandal, bank charges scandal, PPI scandal, and now even a run on a bank), hospitals you are scared to enter, other bits of the health service who cancel your routine appointments with as many cares in the world as Ryanair has when it cancels flights, government 'watchdogs' that move about as fast as sloths, general customer service everywhere that obstructs your enquiry with multilevel voicemail intended to confuse you and make you give up or, if you speak to someone, that habitually breaks promises to call you back, no idea whether the person that serves you or searches you is legally working in the UK or not, and not to mention the way Contracts like mobile phone contracts are just torn-up under our noses (by a cartel of course), and just in case you are prepared to give the benefit of the doubt on all of the foregoing you might then note that UK annual landfill tonnage now exceeds the landfill tonnage of the 18 least landfilling nations of Europe put together. So apart from all the excess paper that the continually changing small print produces in the UK, can you guess why else that might be?

Well while you are guessing, I'm off to sign the OP's petition.

kyleapt342

thesaint wrote: »

You've got 16 more than I thought you would, quit while your ahead.:)

Nice to see your support, i signed it. Suppose we can hope. haha

redux

peterbaker wrote: »

Contrary to what has been said by a previous poster, this has everything to do with Gordon Brown.

He is the man that told the City of London a couple of years ago that he believed in a "light touch on regulation" so as not to stifle business.

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The 0870 change was a commercial decision by O2, and nothing to do with the regulator.

In the last few years, the price of peak mobile minutes has dropped from about 30 pence to an average as little as under 3.

mobilejunkie

There are statistics and statistics... as long as the mobile companies (like many others) operate a cartel only the so-called regulator can force them to act competitively. In case you missed it, it was the European regulator who forced them to change their "commercial decision" of ripping people off while abroad. Otherwise they still would be. It's a pity our own regulator sees fit to allow the networks to do as they please unless Europe forces them to actually do something rather than swop bits of paper and make unconvincing noises.

peterbaker

redux, do you work for a mobile phone company, perhaps O2, also?

I never said the 0870 0845 etc. decision was anything to do with any regulator. Quite the opposite. If it occurred around the same time amongst all the networks, then it was cartel behaviour which should have been pounced on and punished with a £100M fine by now.

Because we have Gordon Brown's "light touch on regulation", it wasn't. Get my point now?

PS Got a text from O2 this morning to advise that European Roaming is now down to 35p/18p. Was that another 'commercial' move?

ukbill69

Now I dont mind paying for calls, but for god sake, charging 20p per min for 0845 numbers that cost about 3p per min on bt and 0800 at 20p per min that are totally free, dont they make enough money!, if everyone signs this then the pm will step in, thats what the website is for.

ukbill69

O 31 signitures now. I wonder if martin can step in and help us?

redux

peterbaker wrote: »

If it occurred around the same time amongst all the networks, then it was cartel behaviour which should have been pounced on and punished with a £100M fine by now.

Because we have Gordon Brown's "light touch on regulation", it wasn't. Get my point now?

No, because the networks were several years apart in this action, so it doesn't seem to be a cartel decision.

peterbaker wrote: »

PS Got a text from O2 this morning to advise that European Roaming is now down to 35p/18p. Was that another 'commercial' move?

O2's My Europe Extra, launched in January, is a competitive move, and in conjunction with other services gives you the chance to make calls from all over Europe for from 5 pence a minute, even for 0870 numbers at the moment

KeithP

ukbill69 wrote: »

31 signitures now. I wonder if martin can step in and help us?

Yes, with his vote that will be 32! :j

mobilejunkie

Impressive; Looks like we're getting almost one vote every two days now! Reckon good 'ole Gordon will sit up and take note - might be more votes than he can hope for himself (another wishful thought...!).