Does an illegal plate circumvent average speed cameras?

Johno100

Car_54 wrote: »

According to the makers of the SPECS system, both data and images are logged.

See jenoptik.co.uk

Logically it really has to, otherwise there'd be thousands of individuals going to court, arguing it was a misread ("It wasn't me gov") and the police/CPS having no way of disproving it.

AdrianC

tedted wrote: »

trailers are tested now

Not in the UK, they aren't - at least, not "normal" trailers, broadly those under 3,500kg MAM.

https://www.gov.uk/annual-test-for-lorries-buses-and-trailers/vehicles-that-must-take-the-annual-test

Even something above 1,020kg ULW isn't testable if it's only on over-run brakes, and over-run brakes are fine up to 3,500kg MAM.

Anything above that has long been tested, but you need a truck licence to tow it anyway.

Head_The_Ball

I doubt if the Police and authorities care very much about the spacing on a number plate.

The prime purpose of a number plate is presumably vehicle identification.

If APNR cameras can't recognise the number then a manual check is easily done so nobody is likely to get away with speeding, etc. by having a wrongly spaced number. Forged numbers is of course a different matter but they are not usually anything other than bog standard.

It is easier for say, a witness to a hit and run, to remember a number that has been spaced so it becomes a word than a random string of letters and numbers.

Therefore a wrongly spaced number plate is actually doing a better job at making the number recognisable and memorable than a bog standard number.

Strict enforcement of the rule might reduce the revenue the DVLA get from selling special numbers, although fine revenue would increase.

Overall I think the Police have much higher priorities than this.

I might be wrong.

AndyMc.....

Head_The_Ball wrote: »

I doubt if the Police and authorities care very much about the spacing on a number plate.

The prime purpose of a number plate is presumably vehicle identification.

If APNR cameras can't recognise the number then a manual check is easily done so nobody is likely to get away with speeding, etc. by having a wrongly spaced number. Forged numbers is of course a different matter but they are not usually anything other than bog standard.

It is easier for say, a witness to a hit and run, to remember a number that has been spaced so it becomes a word than a random string of letters and numbers.

Therefore a wrongly spaced number plate is actually doing a better job at making the number recognisable and memorable than a bog standard number.

Strict enforcement of the rule might reduce the revenue the DVLA get from selling special numbers, although fine revenue would increase.

Overall I think the Police have much higher priorities than this.

I might be wrong.

The clue is in the name, if it can't recognise the number then unless there's an operator present then nothing is done.

AndyMc.....

Car_54 wrote: »

According to the makers of the SPECS system, both data and images are logged.

See jenoptik.co.uk

You still miss the point, if the system can't read the registration number then why would someone manually check it?

Johno100

AndyMc..... wrote: »

You still miss the point, if the system can't read the registration number then why would someone manually check it?

And you miss the point, It will read something and record it. It'll be at the point where what's been recorded doesn't match a DVLA record that there will be human intervention.

AndyMc.....

Johno100 wrote: »

And you miss the point, It will read something and record it. It'll be at the point where what's been recorded doesn't match a DVLA record that there will be human intervention.

Something or nothing. I'll leave you be as you've obviously used such systems more than I have.

deaston

Johno100 wrote: »

And you miss the point, It will read something and record it. It'll be at the point where what's been recorded doesn't match a DVLA record that there will be human intervention.

If an average speed camera can't recognise a plate, how can it then track it from one point to the next?

Johno100

deaston wrote: »

If an average speed camera can't recognise a plate, how can it then track it from one point to the next?

Recognise it? It will record ABC 123 at the first camera and again at the second. The system will calcuate distance over time and spot any speeders. Only at that point will it need to draw data from DVLA to get keeper details for the rest of the process. If it fails to do that because of incorrect spacing or it's a foreign plate for instance then it will need human intervention.

But yes if the plate is upside down, obscurred with dirt or hidden by a bike rack then it won't register on the camera and god forbid a speeder might get away with his/her crime.:eek:

AndyMc.....

Johno100 wrote: »

Recognise it? It will record ABC 123 at the first camera and again at the second. The system will calcuate distance over time and spot any speeders. Only at that point will it need to draw data from DVLA to get keeper details for the rest of the process. If it fails to do that because of incorrect spacing or it's a foreign plate for instance then it will need human intervention.

But yes if the plate is upside down, obscurred with dirt or hidden by a bike rack then it won't register on the camera and god forbid a speeder might get away with his/her crime.:eek:

But if the plate is misrepresented the computer tries to format it into a layout it understands so it may not read it the same twice.