Does an illegal plate circumvent average speed cameras?

Ebe_Scrooge

AndyMc..... wrote: »

If it's not being read then they are getting away with it.

Wrong - as previous posters have said, if the computer fails to automatically recognise the plate, for whatever reason, it flags up for a manual check.

AndyMc.....

Ebe_Scrooge wrote: »

Wrong - as previous posters have said, if the computer fails to automatically recognise the plate, for whatever reason, it flags up for a manual check.

So if the computer fails to read the plate, how do they know the average speed?

AndyMc.....

Ebe_Scrooge wrote: »

The photograph, perhaps, the same one that's used as evidence if required ?

There's no photo on average speed cameras.

almillar

You say the police care, but I see several of them a day - illegal spacing, illegal fonts etc.

Don't you ever see any speeding, mobile phone use, running red lights, driving without due care and attention?

It's the police/law I'm angry at.

Why? There's no way illegal spacing lets you get away with speeding, which seems to be what you've made up in your head. In this case, there really are more important things for police to do. You're daft to do it IMO, because it attracts attention to you, making you more likely to be pulled over, or is just one more thing you'll get into trouble for if you are pulled over.

MikeWhite

On a similar note I see many trailers with the wrong plate on - i.e. it does not match the towing vehicle. Today I saw a huge trailer with no plate. What happens when they pass a camera?

deaston

MikeWhite wrote: »

On a similar note I see many trailers with the wrong plate on - i.e. it does not match the towing vehicle. Today I saw a huge trailer with no plate. What happens when they pass a camera?

I often see HGVs with the plate on the trailer upside down. I wonder this is because it tricks the average speed cameras?

AdrianC

deaston wrote: »

I often see HGVs with the plate on the trailer upside down. I wonder this is because it tricks the average speed cameras?

No, it's simply because the monkey who put the plate on wasn't paying any attention at all.

sheramber

Illegally spaced number plate is an MOT failure.

Some people change the plates to pass the MOT and then change them back afterwards.

IamNotAllowedToUseMyName

AndyMc..... wrote: »

There's no photo on average speed cameras.

Yes there are. There is a continuous filming and from that evidence in the form of timed still frames can be gathered. They need this for contested court cases, they cannot just turn up with a computer listing, but need the evidence together with the type approval and mathematical evidence of why the speed measured can be relied on.

With badly spaced number plates, it can still identify a plate in principle, and no doubt it can identify anything that looks like a number plate and extract the number, even if it cannot reconcile it with the DVLA database - allowing for foreign plates for example.

What the system would struggle to do is match up vehicles where there are no readable plates at all (e.g. missing plates).

It intrigues me how many of the drivers I see deliberately driving at more than 57mph through a 50 actually understand the system, or am I just watching someone with cloned plates or a deliberately wrongly registered car.

AndyMc.....

IanMSpencer wrote: »

Yes there are. There is a continuous filming and from that evidence in the form of timed still frames can be gathered. They need this for contested court cases, they cannot just turn up with a computer listing, but need the evidence together with the type approval and mathematical evidence of why the speed measured can be relied on.

With badly spaced number plates, it can still identify a plate in principle, and no doubt it can identify anything that looks like a number plate and extract the number, even if it cannot reconcile it with the DVLA database - allowing for foreign plates for example.

What the system would struggle to do is match up vehicles where there are no readable plates at all (e.g. missing plates).

It intrigues me how many of the drivers I see deliberately driving at more than 57mph through a 50 actually understand the system, or am I just watching someone with cloned plates or a deliberately wrongly registered car.

No, the systems are quite simple. They read the registration number between two fixed points.