The election that might make a difference and is too close to call thread - France

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

michaels wrote: »

how come the polls were wrong in the UK and US but right in France?

Clinton beat Trump by 3 million votes - the polls were within the margin of error.

AnotherJoe

Wednesday2000 wrote: »

I read that the polls are much more accurate in France. I think it was Nate Silver?

According to the radio yesterday, they are not polls, they are samples taken from actual votes at certain constituencies in such a proportion and amount as to be very accurate.

Nikkster

Le Pen is stepping down as leader of the Front Nationale...

Thrugelmir

Nikkster wrote: »

Le Pen is stepping down as leader of the Front Nationale...

Certainly needs to generate broader appeal.

vivatifosi

That's an enigmatic statement that she's made. She's stepping down from the Front Nationale to rid herself of the party as the election is more important than that. But she can't stop being a Le Pen, surely.

If neither front runner has an established party behind them, how will they go about forming a legislature in the parliamentary elections next month?

The presidential race this morning was likened to a GE in the UK in which both Labour and Conservative parties had been roundly beaten.

Thrugelmir

vivatifosi wrote: »

If neither front runner has an established party behind them, how will they go about forming a legislature in the parliamentary elections next month?

Coalition based on a very narrow agenda perhaps.

michaels

vivatifosi wrote: »

That's an enigmatic statement that she's made. She's stepping down from the Front Nationale to rid herself of the party as the election is more important than that. But she can't stop being a Le Pen, surely.

If neither front runner has an established party behind them, how will they go about forming a legislature in the parliamentary elections next month?

The presidential race this morning was likened to a GE in the UK in which both Labour and Conservative parties had been roundly beaten.

I guess it is a bit like Macron stepping down from the deeply unpopular Socialist party and running as an independent.....

michaels

If I were French and wanted France to remain a country rather than become a region of the European State then what choice would I have - vote for LePen which is basically ukip but worse or accept the end of France as a country. Glad I don't have to make that choice.

Thrugelmir

michaels wrote: »

If I were French and wanted France to remain a country rather than become a region of the European State then what choice would I have - vote for LePen which is basically ukip but worse or accept the end of France as a country. Glad I don't have to make that choice.

The EU as a concept certainly seems to have created ever widening divisions of opinion. Destroying the establishment in the process.

zagubov

I think few countries in Europe have as strong a sense of their national identity and a comfort in its ideals and symbols as the French.