the snap general election thread

mayonnaise

Conrad wrote: »

And now the party forecast...

• Conservatives. Seat gain almost certain. Majority almost certain. Plurality almost certain.
• Labour. Seat loss almost certain. Majority very unlikely. Plurality very unlikely.

Has anyone seen Conrad lately?

fun4everyone

mayonnaise wrote: »

Has anyone seen Conrad lately?

Must be shacked up with "Shakethedisease"

kabayiri

Look at the election map of the UK, and you will immediately see the problem this country faces.

Swathes of blue with concentrated zones of red, and a few other minor colours around.

Why isn't anyone asking why a supposedly progressive; successful; modern economy; like ours, look so polarised?

The economy has been unbalanced for decades now, so why should our politics be balanced?

BobQ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Corbyn ran a Presidential campaign. The challenge for him is find a stable shadow cabinet.

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I agree it is the immediate challenge. He prides himself on his inclusive approach, in the main the exile of the centre was their choice not his. He can carry on as before or he can make more effort to have a broader shadow cabinet which will give stability. So will he ditch people like Abbot, who knows.


The longer term challenge is to build on what he has undoubtedly achieved in the past few months. Is it credible that he can repeat this achievement, getting the youth vote out, getting people to vote for him when they think he might win. Even if he can do that, he still needs to get a further swing of over 3 %

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

I agree it is the immediate challenge. He prides himself on his inclusive approach, in the main the exile of the centre was their choice not his. He can carry on as before or he can make more effort to have a broader shadow cabinet which will give stability. So will he ditch people like Abbot, who knows.

Political leaders surround themselves with people that hold similar views. As little point in having appointing a Minister. That will be a dissenting voice in public. Few big hitters left in Labours ranks either. One wonders if some of the public support from within the PLP is derived from self interest. Promoting ones own future claims to be the next leader. While Corbyn has reignited the Labour Party. You wonder how much further he can take it.

kabayiri

What's all this nonsense about the DUP faux outrage anyway?

They were elected officials, just like SNP; LibDem; Green; Sinn Fein etc.

If you don't like it, campaign to change the system. Until then, we have to lump it.

Corbyn would have had to do a deal with a bunch of separatists from Scotland, so he can have no cause for complaint.

kabayiri

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Political leaders surround themselves with people that hold similar views. As little point in having appointing a Minister. That will be a dissenting voice in public. Few big hitters left in Labours ranks either. One wonders if some of the public support from within the PLP is derived from self interest. Promoting ones own future claims to be the next leader. While Corbyn has reignited the Labour Party. You wonder how much further he can take it.

Corbyn likes to get on the soapbox and sell his ideas, but there is still no credible reason to believe he can deliver them.

His Home Secretary was woefully unprepared, and didn't have the integrity to admit it. They should feel embarassed.

Sapphire

CKhalvashi wrote: »

I was gutted for Sarah. She was breath of fresh air.

I wasn't. Zac is the best MP by far I've ever had – in any area.

That invisible woman's husband actually worked for Heathrow, and she would be utterly useless at working to stop the expansion (despite, of course, stating that she would in the annoying copious campaign material), whereas Zac understands the environment and has worked effectively for environmental causes throughout his career.

And ever since I've lived in this area, I've noted the actual lies in the campaign literature of the liberal democrats – something my sister and b-i-l, who have lived in Richmond for much longer than I have here, also remark upon.

Joe_Horner

BobQ wrote: »

[...]Even if he can do that, he still needs to get a further swing of over 3 %

Athough, from survation's poll for the MoS today it looks like May might have given him that already:

http://mailchi.mp/survation/post-election-poll-for-the-mail-on-sunday-1118541

Also seems the public think she should go, but no clear answer to who should replace her without losing them more support. Suspect the only viable tactic for HQ will be to carry on as if nothing's changed and hope something happens to swing people back.

Ballard

kabayiri wrote: »

What's all this nonsense about the DUP faux outrage anyway?

They were elected officials, just like SNP; LibDem; Green; Sinn Fein etc.

If you don't like it, campaign to change the system. Until then, we have to lump it.

Corbyn would have had to do a deal with a bunch of separatists from Scotland, so he can have no cause for complaint.

Taking this to the absolute extreme we'd have no complaints if ISIS had successfully fielded a candidate.

Had Labour linked with Sinn Fein then we would never have heard the last of it from The Tories.