the snap general election thread

hallmark

Moby wrote: »

The great thing about this result is that a hard brexit is now dead in the water. May won't get such legislation through the Commons!

Nonsense. The Labour party have said they will support Brexit. If they try to oppose Brexit legislation their defeat in the next election is going to make their defeat two days ago look good.

Corbyn should have stuck to Labour principles & opposed Brexit like the LibDems did. Because he supported Brexit in order to get a few more votes he's boxed himself into a corner on the issue :rotfl:

masterwilde

Hallmark, thank Scotland. They now have more power and will be pulling for a lot of power to retain that.

Tories are going to do nothing big in the next 5 years as she doesn't have the power. Tories are screwed to call a leadership election for 2 years as they don't want blaming for a different brexit.

Dup are big on no hard border and want no border at all like now. They cannot have that and the people of the uk won't accept it on the premise of immigration and security.

Hence the next 6 days to form a goverment are by no means guaranteed, so keep celebrating ��

Filo25

chucknorris wrote: »

I don't understand, if you don't think that it is likely, why wouldn't you give high odds?

Sorry I meant short odds, completely misspoke on that one!

Lack of sleep from election night is still making me a bit out of it!

Ballard

hallmark wrote: »

No. He'd have had to have won far more seats to do that.

I can imagine him foaming at the mouth from the sidelines for another 5 years whilst Labour moderates cry into their cornflakes though :j:j

You keep going on about us labour supporters celebrating as though we'd won but having had a brief look through a few pages on here I can't see it. I can see criticism of May and the Tories but that's an entirely different thing to 'celebrating a Labour win'.

TM set out to annihilate the opposition but instead lost the slim majority that her party held. They've now had to link with some rather nasty people to form a government. That is not in any way a success.

Labour aren't the main party in the commons but they do have significantly more seats than they had at the start of the year and I think that this has given them a decent degree of credibility nationally. None of us know where the Labour party will head from here. Over the next five years there are so many things that can change but it's a better base from which to go to the polls than the nightmare possibility of 190 seats which had been mooted just a few weeks ago.

chucknorris

Filo25 wrote: »

Sorry I meant short odds, completely misspoke on that one!

Lack of sleep from election night is still making me a bit out of it!

I was wondering why I slept so well last night, I had forgotten that I had only a had a few hours sleep the night before. I can also forgive myself for being too lazy to go running yesterday too, something that i am putting right this afternoon.

hallmark

Actually it wasn't just Labour supporters celebrating, it was Labour themselves. Corbyn & Thornberry (along with Russell Brand haha) were all talking as if they'd won & Corbyn would be PM.

I agree the Labour celebrations have fizzled out now as the initial euphoric disbelief that Corbyn actually won some seats has given way to the realization that the only thing that's really changed is instead of 3 years in charge the Tories have 5.

hallmark

masterwilde wrote: »

so keep celebrating ��

Thanks, I am :beer::beer:

Arklight

chucknorris wrote: »

Yes I can imagine Corbyn forming a Gov with TF and/or NC, Corbyn would have jumped at the chance if he had won enough seats to do so. In fact, betfair was trading as low as 25/1 a Labour minority Gov after all but a few of the results were in (something only possible, but also very improbable with a full on alliance or an understanding with other parties)!

EDIT: Do you seriously doubt that he would have, if he had had the opportunity to do so?

What I meant was that no one else would have formed an alliance with the DUC. Not that Corbyn wouldn't have formed an alliance with one of the other people who wouldn't have formed an alliance with the DUC.

We won't hear much more about this pairing until next week. Due to the DUC's Sabbatarianism they won't work on a Sunday at all.

I'm sure they'll have plenty to tell her about their creationism, anti-abortionism, views on Catholicism, anti LGBT agenda, far right Christianity, support for the Orangemen and their Red Hand links on Monday though.

I hope so, because there are going to be plenty of people outside Westminster demanding answers.

Ballard

hallmark wrote: »

Actually it wasn't just Labour supporters celebrating, it was Labour themselves. Corbyn & Thornberry (along with Russell Brand haha) were all talking as if they'd won & Corbyn would be PM.

I agree the Labour celebrations have fizzled out now as the initial euphoric disbelief that Corbyn actually won some seats has given way to the realization that the only thing that's really changed is instead of 3 years in charge the Tories have 5.

When the world and his wife have constantly been telling you that you're doomed but the reality is that you're in a better place than before the election there's obviously going to be a lot of relief, perhaps a sense of euphoria. That's surely a natural reaction.

I've spotted a typo in your post, incidentally. Rather then put Tories/DUP you've simply put Tories. An understandable error considering your excitement.

hallmark

Ballard wrote: »

I've spotted a typo in your post, incidentally. Rather then put Tories/DUP you've simply put Tories. An understandable error considering your excitement.

Nope, it's a minority govt, not a coalition.

I understand your error, considering your disappointment :rotfl: