the snap general election thread

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Just because you cannot see something from the comfort of your surroundings doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

There will always be deranged people who think that bombs help their argument. While it's sad, you can't stop it completely and as long as there isn't wide spread support then it's condemned quickly and everyone moves on.

Being led by the US due to our "special relationship" since 2001 has definitely increased the size of the target on our back. We have to decide whether we want to increase the number of attacks by following Theresa Mays strategy, or give peace a chance.

Conrad wrote: »

They. truly think Corbyn will wave a wand and wages will rise, the homeless he talks of will get a semi and taps will flow with Unicorns and rainbows.

People think Theresa May will strongly and stably get a red white and blue deal with the EU that is better than what we've enjoyed since the 1970's & we won't return to the same state we joined in. That is like wishing on a double rainbow.

We're going to be suffering post brexit either way, but todays vote is mostly about whether you want Conservative MP's and their friends to benefit in the process.

Conrad

fun4everyone wrote: »

BBC defo has mega influence.

Sky News a fair bit but nothing near the BBC.

Newspaper front pages, they do get about but I don't think anywhere near the same influence as for example 1992.

Could be wrong, just an opinion. The internet really ate into a lot of newspaper readership though.

BBC did a piece from a northern town last night which has a tiny Labour majority. The reporter managed to dig out only one Tory voter, and bigged up Corbyn. I wonder if this encourages people to vote for the Corbyn bandwagon?

fun4everyone

setmefree2 wrote: »

So the LP try to buy my vote by promising to possibly write off £100k of my kids student loans.

It's a step up from these forums where you can be routinely told you are a moron or idiot if you dont agree with someone and vote like they do Especially if its about the Muslims

setmefree2

setmefree2 wrote: »

So the LP try to buy my vote by promising to possibly write off £100k of my kids student loans and I still won't vote for them.

And that makes ME a bad person.

Tbh that's why you shouldn't vote Labour - the £11 billion they are spending on tuition fees just for this year - it's for the middle classes
- that £11 billion that would be better spent on the NHS or social care.
Imho.

Conrad

phillw wrote: »

There will always be deranged people who think that bombs help their argument. While it's sad, you can't stop it completely and as long as there isn't wide spread support then it's condemned quickly and everyone moves on.

Being led by the US due to our "special relationship" since 2001 has definitely increased the size of the target on our back. We have to decide whether we want to increase the number of attacks by following Theresa Mays strategy, or give peace a chance.



People think Theresa May will strongly and stably get a red white and blue deal with the EU that is better than what we've enjoyed since the 1970's & we won't return to those days. That is like wishing on a double rainbow.

Why so many Belgian terrorists and terrorism?

Give peace a chance. More like bend over backwards soft touch Corbyn Britain, take in vast immigration, priveledge difference and non integration and wonder why it keeps going wrong

setmefree2

setmefree2 wrote: »

So the LP try to buy my vote by promising to possibly write off £100k of my kids student loans and I still won't vote for them.

And that makes ME a bad person.

setmefree2 wrote: »

Tbh that's why you shouldn't vote Labour - the £11 billion they are spending on tuition fees just for this year - it's for the middle classes
- that £11 billion that would be better spent on the NHS or social care.
Imho.

That's if we had £11 billion to spend - which we don't - it's going to borrowed.

Bonniepurple

I am still torn. I'm probably going to vote Lib Dem. I like some of Labour's policies- but I can't see how they are going to fund them. Yes, the manifesto is fully costed - but so is my 8 year olds Christmas wish list! Doesn't mean she's going to get it all. The words "don't count your chickens before they hatch" springs to mind.

phillw

setmefree2 wrote: »

Tbh that's why you shouldn't vote Labour - the £11 billion they are spending on tuition fees just for this year - it's for the middle classes
- that £11 billion that would be better spent on the NHS or social care.

How is it for the middle classes?

Jeremy claims that tuition fees are putting off working class people going to university, in which case scrapping the fees will help working class people.

However most people say that he is wrong and it hasn't put working class people going to university, in which case it helps working class people anyway.

In neither situation does it only help middle class people. Voting conservative definitely won't benefit working class people though.

Bonniepurple wrote: »

I am still torn. I'm probably going to vote Lib Dem. I like some of Labour's policies- but I can't see how they are going to fund them. Yes, the manifesto is fully costed - but so is my 8 year olds Christmas wish list! Doesn't mean she's going to get it all. The words "don't count your chickens before they hatch" springs to mind.

All parties say they want to do things that are unlikely that they will be able to deliver. The manifesto is more about judging their intentions. The conservatives want to rip up human rights laws and are selling that to us on the basis of anti-terror, a problem which they appear to have been stoking on purpose for a while & don't appear to be stopping.

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

Well that's a hung parliament?

Bye bye Pound.

Why the devotion to these polls. Until they get into an accurate streak they should be ignored.

fun4everyone

phillw wrote: »

Voting conservative definitely won't benefit working class people though.

It won't help anyone apart from the rich who want to watch hounds tear foxes apart for entertainment and billionaire newspaper owners.