the snap general election thread

gfplux

ukcarper wrote: »

I have always voted and would like to vote this time but I cannot vote for any of my candidates this is not a decision I have taken lightly. I really don't believe spoiling your paper will have any effect and the numbers will include papers spoilt deliberately and accidentally and they will not be differentiated.

Vote Green

gfplux

ManofLeisure wrote: »

You are not alone . I have always voted too, but on this occasion am not able to find a candidate which I feel able to support. My wife feels the same. The state of politics in this country is a mess - well that's how I view matters anyway - and I'm sure many others do too!

Vote Green

ukcarper

fun4everyone wrote: »

Not long now until the army of terrible grandparents tick the 'f*** everybody but me' box

I will not be voting Tory but how is trying not to saddle the younger generations with an enormous amount of public debt doing what you say.

phillw

setmefree2 wrote: »

Well that's a hung parliament?

Bye bye Pound.

Project Fear.

ukcarper wrote: »

I will not be voting Tory but how is trying not to saddle the younger generations with an enormous amount of public debt doing what you say.

The Tories don't appear to be trying to do that. They appear to be selling that, but instead lining their own pockets.

Moby

Arklight wrote: »

The Tories aren't going to do anything to the NHS other than sell it off. Probably to the lowest bidder.

Right I'm off to East Sussex to help defend a marginal seat. Whatever happens tonight it'll be a relief that this is all over. With the locals and the election back go back for weeks, I am knackered.

Fwiw, no I don't think Labour are going to win. Jeremy has done an almost superhuman job turning around the smear and lies constantly shat all over him by the Tory owned media over the last two years, but there are too many closed minds. The cover of the Sun says it all. If that's your newspaper of choice, I hope you are proud of yourself.

Whatever, when I, along with everyone else, is forced to watch the horror show that Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre have in mind for the UK over the next five years, at least I can say I tried.

For the very small minority of people reading this forum who aren't UKIP or Tory supporters, please go out today and vote. Every one really does count. It isn't pointless and a growing anti Tory vote will pay off in five years time no matter how blue your constituency.

We can add 5000 voters this time, and 5000 voters next time, don't stay at home today and leave us trying to add 10,000 voters in five years.

You can use this site to vote tactically and make sure your vote has the biggest impact.

https://www.tactical2017.com/

Just come back from the polls....you can tell the tory types...they wouldn't look me in the eye and kept their heads down. Sadly the selfish baby boomers will all go for mad edna and will see her through to victory.

gfplux

Just want to share this with you to illustrate that not all health tourists are "foreigners" getting off a plane and going straight to A&E. The copy and paste is from a remainders sight. Make of it what you will.

"Feeling very frustrated. Stepdaughter living abroad (Australia, Middle East and Singapore) for the last 20 years apart from a short stint of two years back in the UK between 2013-2015 arrived back in the UK on Sunday for a 3 month holiday. Having registered to vote from her in laws address she is telling us she is going to vote Conservative. I am a EU citizen having lived in the UK for 25 years married to her father and having no right to vote. She is going back to Singapore and then planning settle permanently in Australia with her husband. Trying to persuade her to at least give her vote to her 17 year old half brother whose future is in the UK. He would have voted labour as a tactical vote. No success or commitment to this plea. What to do..... Feeling very angry at the unfairness of it all. Needless to say she has made her appointments at the GP and NHS dentist whilst in the UK. Easy, just show British Passport and her in laws address."

ukcarper

gfplux wrote: »

Vote Green

No green candidate I was hoping for a Monster Raving Loonie candidate. If the Lib/Dems main aim wasn't to overturn the referendum result I would probably have voted for them.

Enterprise_1701C

phillw wrote: »

How is it for the middle classes?

Jeremy claims that tuition fees are putting off working class people going to university, in which case scrapping the fees will help working class people.

However most people say that he is wrong and it hasn't put working class people going to university, in which case it helps working class people anyway.

In neither situation does it only help middle class people. Voting conservative definitely won't benefit working class people though.



All parties say they want to do things that are unlikely that they will be able to deliver. The manifesto is more about judging their intentions. The conservatives want to rip up human rights laws and are selling that to us on the basis of anti-terror, a problem which they appear to have been stoking on purpose for a while & don't appear to be stopping.

The student loan will be written off 30 years after you become eligible to repay it.

You only start repaying it after you start earning over £21,000.

If you earn £26,000 you only repay £37.50 a month.

The interest rate is the rate of inflation, unless you earn over £41,000 when it is up to an extra 3%.

Due to the massive flood of students to universities only a small percentage actually earn enough to repay the loan. It is designed to be repaid by those that can afford to repay it, the people despised by all those that want a new socialist republic.

But don't let facts get in the way, soundbites are what count in this election, oh, and spending as much money as you can so you can bankrupt the country, increase inflation, increase interest rates, increase the amount of repossessions and get the whole country dependent on the state.

A bit like Russia, but then, if Corbyn gets in, we may well be a part of Russia by the time his faithful followers wake up.

kabayiri

gfplux wrote: »

Vote Green

Jonathan Bartley from the Greens was quite eloquent in his Leader's slot on Sunday evening (BBC I think...)

The problem is that, like everyone else, he is interviewed on the basis that he has an answer for everything.

**Reality time, he doesn't**

I think he made some good points about the next wave of Nuclear for example. The strike price for the energy delivered is way too high.

But then he went on to talk about renewables as a replacement, when we should be talking about alternatives for base load.

He never mentioned the dramatic upgrades to the grid which a renewable plan would require.

Someone who is based in the good/bad reality of where we are today, would plot an energy plan where we frack for tactical reasons with a long term plan to build up the renewable base.

ukcarper

phillw wrote: »

Project Fear.



The Tories don't appear to be trying to do that. They appear to be selling that, but instead lining their own pockets.

They are making more of an effort than Labour, if Labour hadn't swung so far to the left and offered a moderate increase in spending, not wasting money of free university places for every Tom !!!! and Harry, free school meals for everyone etc, I would have had someone to vote for.