the snap general election thread

setmefree2

phillw wrote: »

Project Fear.
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Not sure. A hung parliament could lead to a dip in the pound - but the markets could also read it as "soft brexit" or "no brexit" - which case it will strengthen - steady this morning - ticking upwards.

Don't want to be too chicken likenish but there are plenty of people around saying things are not all that well in the uk economy - whoever wins.

ThinkingOutLoud_2

fun4everyone wrote: »

Yeah mate take that Nurse from question time, like all public sector workers her pay rises have been capped at 1% since 2009. Inflation alone is pushing 3% this year. Thats a total joke. How do you expect these people to live? Food banks? Meanwhile MPs get fat rises.

Yes, that is rather the point isn't it - there is no extra service going to come if all your extra money goes to you pay the same number of people more money.
I am not saying they should not keep pace with inflation - but you cannot spend the same money twice.
The whole the NHS will be saved by Labour's extra money doesn't add up any more than Diane Abbott can count.
The fact they intend to put less money in than the Conservatives is a secondary but surely relevant fact?

Arklight

Moby wrote: »

Just come back from the polls....you can tell the tory types...they wouldn't look me in the eye and kept their heads down. Sadly the selfish baby boomers will all go for mad edna and will see her through to victory.

We've noticed that in door knocking. People who are planning to vote Tory are generally too ashamed to say so. It's silly because if they just say they're Conservative voters they'll be recorded as such and never bothered again.

If a Tory canvasser ever happens to arrive at my door they'll be left in no doubt what letter to write in their little box.

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

Just come back from the polls....you can tell the tory types...they wouldn't look me in the eye and kept their heads down. Sadly the selfish baby boomers will all go for mad edna and will see her through to victory.

I don't think most people have found this an easy choice - and at least they've voted.

setmefree2

fun4everyone wrote: »

It won't help anyone apart from the rich who want to watch hounds tear foxes apart for entertainment and billionaire newspaper owners.

Tbf - never understood the joy of fox hunting - what is all that about?

kabayiri

phillw wrote: »

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The Tories don't appear to be trying to do that. They appear to be selling that, but instead lining their own pockets.

Do you use Uber?
Do you have an iPhone?
Do you use Google/Facebook/Ebay/Amazon/AirBNB/Paypal/YouTube?

This is where the real power is going.

For example, Google do have a health division, but there is absolutely no chance of them taking onboard the NHS.

..They don't want most of it.

They want to access to the valuable data the NHS generates, which they can leverage for commercial gain.

You'd be surprised how many mainstream parties have talked to the likes of Google.

setmefree2

By the way - what's all this free breakfast crap - when did parents stop being able to put cereal in a bowl and add milk?

It's not hard !!!!!!.

ThinkingOutLoud_2

phillw wrote: »

The conservatives want to rip up human rights laws .

Well if that isn't project fear - I'd like to see it!

If you look at the time and money ti took to deport Hamza for example - you might feel that aspects of the well-intended present favours terrorists and they'd like to apply for derogations to adjust pieces that work for the extremists and not the innocents who have rights too.

If their aim is to lock up anyone and everyone - I am sure there will be a massive backlash and they won't get such things through.

You on the other hand seem to rant about anything and everything they might do regardless of if it makes us all safer or not and that you have not seen the detail.

On that basis how do you ever expect anyone to switch to Labour if they applied the same approach to reading a manifesto - if they start with your premise that all others all spout rubbish and lies.

There is good and bad on all sides.

kabayiri

setmefree2 wrote: »

By the way - what's all this free breakfast crap - when did parents stop being able to put cereal in a bowl and add milk?

It's not hard !!!!!!.

I'm afraid it is.

A teacher friend works in a school in a poor neighbourhood of South Manchester.

When the kids come in hungry, she asks where was the cereal.

The answer? They ate the cereal for dinner the night before !

There are some real problems in our society, and a bit of food doesn't fix them.

We need to know why parents can't plan, and what really drains their money. I suspect the horrible PDL industry is more pervasive than we are willing to admit.

setmefree2

kabayiri wrote: »

I'm afraid it is.

A teacher friend works in a school in a poor neighbourhood of South Manchester.

When the kids come in hungry, she asks where was the cereal.

The answer? They ate the cereal for dinner the night before !

There are some real problems in our society, and a bit of food doesn't fix them.

We need to know why parents can't plan, and what really drains their money. I suspect the horrible PDL industry is more pervasive than we are willing to admit.

Well, that explains why some kids need a breakfast. And these sorts of problems have always existed. But - EVERYONE.