the snap general election thread

setmefree2

MANCHESTER: The suicide bomber who killed at least 22 people and wounded 59 at a packed concert hall in the English city of Manchester has been identified by US officials as Salman Abedi, The Telegraph reported.
According to the British newspaper, Abedi was born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children. His parents were Libyan refugees who fled the Qaddafi regime and came to the UK.
His mother and father, a security officer, reportedly emigrated to London before shifting to the south Manchester where they have lived for at least ten years.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/142942-manchester-suicide-bomber-identified-as-salman-abedi

setmefree2

Corbyn and McDonnell have blood on their hands for IRA support, claims ex-terrorist

A former IRA terrorist said Jeremy Corbyn's support for the group gave its members "great encouragement" and claimed the Labour leader and shadow chancellor John McDonnell have "blood on their own hands".
Sean O'Callaghan said the support of the Labour leader and Mr McDonnell had "made it easier" for the republican terror group to carry out atrocities.
A spokesman for Labour dismissed the "false and contemptible claims" and stressed Mr Corbyn and Mr McDonnell's commitment to the peace process.
IRA terrorist-turned-informer O'Callaghan, a convicted double killer, said he witnessed the impact of the support from the Labour figures during the 1980s.
Writing in The Sun he said: "IRA men and women, many young and hopelessly politically naive, derived great encouragement from the solidarity openly displayed by Corbyn, McDonnell and their associates.
"I know. I was there. I witnessed the effect.
"They might not have pulled a trigger or planted a bomb but they certainly made it easier for those who did.
"By boosting our morale, they prolonged the violence and without a doubt for that, have blood on their own hands."

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2017/corbyn-and-mcdonnell-have-blood-on-their-hands-for-ira-support-claims-exterrorist-35744491.html

setmefree2

Jeremy Corbyn unclear on funding for new tuition fees pledge

The Labour leader denies the promise to scrap tuition fees for students from this year will leave a £9bn black hole.

http://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-unclear-on-funding-for-new-tuition-fees-pledge-10889130

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

I have tried to find details from the FT and failed, sorry but I saw this.

Tuesday May 23

6pm BST: The Liberal Democrats are falling far behind Labour and the Conservatives in the latest polls.

Figures from the Financial Times show Tim Farron’s party struggling to gain a foothold in the election at just eight per cent.

The Conservatives are currently standing at 46 per cent and Labour are at 33 per cent.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/807359/Election-2017-UK-news-updates-General-Election-polls-Conservatives-Labour-Theresa-May-poll


Also this.

Jeremy Corbyn suffered a setback today as a poll of 2015 Labour voters in north London found 51 per cent thought the party “unelectable” with him as leader.

Some 50 per cent disagreed with the direction he was taking the party, and one in four who backed Labour when Ed Miliband was in charge now plans to vote for another party, the survey found. Among those who plan to stick with Labour on June 8, two thirds said they would do so “despite Jeremy Corbyn”.

The findings come from a poll commissioned by Labour-backing critics of Mr Corbyn i

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/general-election-polls-jeremy-corbyn-dealt-blow-as-half-of-north-london-labour-voters-say-he-is-a3545051.html

kabayiri

setmefree2 wrote: »

https://www.geo.tv/latest/142942-manchester-suicide-bomber-identified-as-salman-abedi

Corbyn really doesn't need the debate moving to homeland security. He comes across as an appeaser, and I'm not sure he is a good judge of public mood.

gfplux

.string. wrote: »

In her speech today in Wrexham, May mentioned something we should all consider.

The Conservatives will have spent what will amount to 11 months preparing for the Brexit negotiations. That would include many strategic discussions, studying of financial analyses of alternative give/take argument, plan Bs for different stages of the arguments, discussion with devovlved assemblies and so on.

11 months!!!!

Labour have done how much preparation? (Other than carping from the outside).

All this in the context of negotiations starting for real in June.

One has to wonder how the Labour could be any shape at all to take over the reins of the negotiation.

I would concede that it's not a level playing field for Labour at this point in time, but that's where we are.

My conclusion, it would be a complete shambles if Labour plus the other odds and sods were to be in charge of the negotiations.

Sorry can not agree.
Almost all the work has been done and recorded by civil servants. If Labour were to win they would only need a short delay to up to the same speed we see from the present PM.
She will get "a good deal" she says, but that is all she says. Shouldn't someone ask what a good deal looks like?
Or is that too close to shouting out "the king has no cloths"

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

Sorry can not agree.
Almost all the work has been done and recorded by civil servants. If Labour were to win they would only need a short delay to up to the same speed we see from the present PM.
She will get "a good deal" she says, but that is all she says. Shouldn't someone ask what a good deal looks like?

You can't agree?
Oh what a surprise - not!

The legwork may indeed have been done - but based upon the policies of Theresa May et al.
NOT upon the policies of Tovarisch Khorbyn or Frothing Farron or anyone else.
Is that really so difficult to understand?

ukcarper

setmefree2 wrote: »

I thought she did well. If she'd put figures on anything - say winter fule allowance cut off point - the papers would have found the poor losers on exactly that amount of income....she knows exactly all the figures they (the government) are contemplating - the trick is not to tell anyone else...then they can't nail you to the cross...

That's fair enough but to continuously deny that initially there was cap when clearly there wasn't is treating voters with contempt.

BobQ

setmefree2 wrote: »

I thought she did well. If she'd put figures on anything - say winter fule allowance cut off point - the papers would have found the poor losers on exactly that amount of income....she knows exactly all the figures they (the government) are contemplating - the trick is not to tell anyone else...then they can't nail you to the cross...

Had Corbyn adopted the same policy of deferring everything until after the election, what do you think would have happened in the press?

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

Had Corbyn adopted the same policy of deferring everything until after the election, what do you think would have happened in the press?

Well the manifesto is primarily funded by borrowing huge sums of money at cheap interest rates. Do you think that this is at all likely?