Roundabout accident

Nasqueron

AdrianC wrote: »

This other car wasn't there - yet hit you on the FRONT corner of your car?

Can you post the location of the roundabout, where you were joining from, and where you were going towards?

It sounds to me like they were on a dual carriageway, OP in left hand lane, other driver in right. OP has entered roundabout and gone wide (correctly, inside lines) and the other driver has tried to cut over the front (probably assuming OP is turning off left) - I guess the left exit might have 2 lanes as well. I wonder if the other driver changed his story when he realised that the left lane could be straight on as well

BeenThroughItAll

House_Martin wrote: »

I agree with the insurance company view. I am sick of these people going around roundabouts in the left hand lane and going past a straight ahead exit to one more bearing right hand. They are undertakers which is against the Highway Code and can be considered dangerous driving. The younger drivers are the worst offenders as usual

Funny that. It's almost always the doddery old !!!!!!!s doing that when I see it, not the younger drivers. They're the same old !!!!!!s who think signalling right to go straight on, not signalling left to exit, and travelling the entire circumference of the roundabout in the left hand lane without signalling at all are all acceptable.

Tilt

Lorna_Jayne wrote: »

I was involved in a car accident on a dual carriageway roundabout.

I entered the roundabout in the left hand lane and I wanted to take the second exit (straight ahead). The roundabout was clear so I proceeded. A driver who was to the right of me, in the other lane, hit me shortly after entering the roundabout (by the first exit). He hit me on the front right hand side of my car (at a force that caused my car to be directed in to the first exit).
- The other driver clearly wanted to take the first exit and while doing so, in the right hand lane, he crashed into me.

His insurance company say that I should not have been in the left hand lane to take the second exit, although road markings (arrows indicating both left and straight ahead on the lane that I was in, show I can. Although, route numbers listed under the arrows indicate otherwise; I contacted the local council who confirmed that I was indeed correct to be the in lane I was in.

My insurance company want to settle on a 50/50 split liability which I am not happy with as I did nothing wrong.

I just spoke to my insurance company who have informed me that his statement was that he actually wanted the second exit too and that I went into him by veering off right, which is not true.

There are no witnesses and I'm desperately seeking any CCTV footage in the local area - currently to no avail.

Surely, if his statement is to be considered true there would be evidence of additional damage done to the right side of his vehicle due to the magnitude of the impact causing him to crash into the roundabout too.

Has anyone got any advice that may help me? Thank you.

How was it the insurance company expressed this 'opinion' to you? I wasn't aware that it was the norm the TP's insurers make contact with 'the other party'!

That aside and going on your account, I would agree that you were in the correct lane and the TP was in the wrong one. However, proving it will be a different matter unless you have witnesses or camera footage. Without either, You will just have to categorically state what you have said here and offer to dispute it in court if necessary to recover any uninsured losses. Obviously if you have legal cover in your policy, that will help.

It's also worth saying that most dual carriageway traffic islands have two possible lanes to use at the 2nd exit. I.e. both left and right lanes can be used when exiting the second exit (assuming of course the dual carriageway continues after the island) providing both cars remain in their respective lanes.

neilmcl

Tilt wrote: »

How was it the insurance company expressed this 'opinion' to you? I wasn't aware that it was the norm the TP's insurers make contact with 'the other party'

Happened with my last "accident". The TP insurer made contact within the day of the accident before I could arrange anything else.

forgotmyname

I wouldnt trust the councils answer the person you spoke to may not even know the area.

Large busy roundabout near me also a dual carriageway. For every 100 cars that go straight on 75 turn right with 1 taking the 4th exit and 2 taking the left turn.
Yet in some idiots wisdom they painted the lines on the roundabout so the left lane was left turn only. What chaos that caused. Massive queues in the right hand lane and 1 empty left hand lane except the off queue jumper who often had accidents when the annoyed drivers in the right hand lane wouldnt give them an inch.

3 times they changed the layout at £13,000 to £15,000 per time. Finally being painted the exact same way it had been for some 10 years+

And cars in the left hand lane still try to cut the around bit out and try to drive in a straight line and venture into the right hand lane. Soon they are making it into 3 lanes.. Oh what fun it will be then.

takman

Although the other other driver seems to be in the wrong these accidents can almost always be avoided.

I've had this happen to me loads of times and the last time it happened was on the weekend. If i wanted to i could have keep going at my current pace and had an accident and been the right. Instead i chose to slow down and let them cut infront of me on the roundabout. I also beeped my horn and they didn't seem to react to my presence at all so if i hadn't been aware of them there would have almost certainly been a crash.


So i much prefer to be observant and actively avoid accidents even if it does inconvenience me slightly it is nothing compared to the hassle of an accident!.

thescouselander

If the roads are anything like round here the roundabout markings are probably all over the place and can't actually be followed properly.

That's probably why a lot of incidents go 50/50 as the insurers know proving anything is practically impossible.

almillar

OP - can you share a Google Maps link with us of the roundabout in question?
Are there road markings or signs when entering the roundabout?
Did the contact happen in your 'lane' of the roundabout?
Were you aware of the other driver beside or behind you when entering the roundabout, and was he indicating left?
It does sound like he entered your 'lane' without checking.

MisterP123

I had an almost identical accident when I was young and naive. Except I was the one in the right hand lane (going straight ahead I might add) on a dual carriageway and person to my left cut straight into the side of me. I was smack bang next to her, travelling at the same speed etc etc etc, she really should have at least seen I was there and in doing so attempted to keep wide, but nope!

Apart from the obvious damage, I also chipped a tyre and scuffed an alloy on the roundabout (that's how tight I was.)

Anyway, long story short, 50/50 and without witnesses there isn't a lot you can do about it.

Lorna_Jayne

almillar wrote: »

OP - can you share a Google Maps link with us of the roundabout in question?
Are there road markings or signs when entering the roundabout?
Did the contact happen in your 'lane' of the roundabout?
Were you aware of the other driver beside or behind you when entering the roundabout, and was he indicating left?
It does sound like he entered your 'lane' without checking.

google.co.uk/maps/place/Shepherd+and+Flock+Roundabout,+Farnham+GU10+1NR/@51.2220047,-0.7794403,18z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x48742ce21e3edc73:0xdda9aaa9f2e38 aa1!8m2!3d51.2188229!4d-0.7779168

We were both entering on the A325 (bottom left) and I wanted to exit onto the B3208. It was obvious to me that he wanted the first exit but he has lied saying he was going towards the B3208 in order to avoid liability. There are arrows showing that you can use both the right and left lane to take the second exit. Yes, he came into my lane, and no I think he accelerated when he entered and he thought he could cut in front of me without contact. I didn't even see him coming