Neighbours with hyperactive kids now in Easter holidays!

scorpsub

London50 wrote: »

This is YOUR problem to sort out not getting some Tom/Richard or Harry to "fight your battles for you". If you do not have the bottle to face these people then be ready for a lifetime of what you are suffering now {or worse}
People should not believe that there is going to be someone around to sort thing out for them. Life is not like that so try standing on your own two feet for once and you never know things MAY get a lot quieter for you.

What a vicious nasty attitude.

You don't know why I don't want to confront them besides I

Please enlighten me to why you think I want someone else to

Do you know the reason for my health condition? Lets just say its related to someone being vicious to me in the past so I don't like confronting people and I have a DIAGNOSED disability.

Witht he knock on effect from medication, pain it makes me struggle to do certain things so you want me to go up to a property with a group of people known to drink and get agressive by myself (or with my housemate who has their own issues)

Before I had the disability and health problems I used to confront people, I would still confront this person now if I was clear headed rested and the couple was on their own.

So don't judge without knowing the bigger picture!

London50

scorpsub wrote: »

What a vicious nasty attitude.

You don't know why I don't want to confront them besides I

Please enlighten me to why you think I want someone else to

Do you know the reason for my health condition? Lets just say its related to someone being vicious to me in the past so I don't like confronting people and I have a DIAGNOSED disability.

Witht he knock on effect from medication, pain it makes me struggle to do certain things so you want me to go up to a property with a group of people known to drink and get agressive by myself (or with my housemate who has their own issues)

Before I had the disability and health problems I used to confront people, I would still confront this person now if I was clear headed rested and the couple was on their own.

So don't judge without knowing the bigger picture!

It is neither a vicious or nasty attitude it is the truth and unless YOU give full information at the start people can only respond as they read any post.
My comments still stand.

scorpsub

London50 wrote: »

It is neither a vicious or nasty attitude it is the truth and unless YOU give full information at the start people can only respond as they read any post.
My comments still stand.

Its the "truth" hidden behind a insult or judgement so a easy target.

I tried writing as much as I could in first post but was wary people might think I was blaming certain external factors and I don't have the best writing style when I am weak and exhausted.

Did you not assume the first thing I wanted to do was deal with this myself? Why wouldn't I want to instead of dealing with long periods of extreme noise, I also tried being tolerant but theres only so much someone can take.

I have had noise issues in past and tolerated them but used to people getting agressive when confronted even if its in shared accomodation and I said to someone I don't mind guests round or music but I have a early start and the music keeps me up to late hours, didn't tell them to stop listening to it in fact said they could continue but could they be aware that I was trying to sleep.

And I lived with someone I had to tip toe about or they would scream shout and threaten violence for me to so much as walk up to my room even during day as they slept a lot

Or a neighbour who assaulted me and used to threaten to beat me up for noise in property with walls to thin you could hear people snore cough even though I walked about in socks and slippers my crime being I needed to go to toilet during night and it woke him up due to the thin walls.

So what I am doing is being tolerant and fair so I should not be judged on that, plus should be reasons why I don't like confrontation now and thats before we bring in health into it.

If for example my brother turned up hes assesertive without resorting to insults or agression (though if someone shouted abuse at him he would back) he could show we are not happy and won't be walked over, if I go up as happened at older properties people continued to make noise in fact it made them worse as they felt like they had a right to noise at whatever time, this included when neighbours knocked on my house assuming noise was from me when it was next house along as it was loud enough to go into their home!

I am a very polite person so feel like when I am made out to be in the wrong its very insulting with as much of an effort till now I have made.

beautiful_ravens

I can see why you'd want someone else with you for back up. Can't you ask your brother to visit and help you out? He could stand around and be visible while you talk to your neighbours.
I do agree with some other posters, if you havent said anything to the neighbours, they might be thinking youre ok with the noise or are deaf or something, they are not mind readers.

London50

Perhaps then if your brother is as good aas you say why not invite him to visit you and see if he will help you?
If there are ANY threats towards you that is what your local police are for. I know you may not believe me but I do know something of what you are going through with the people in your block {we have had that type of thing in the past} but coming onto a forum like this with only part of the facts will only {as you have found} be responded to in the way it has.
We are not nasty people on here, we read the posts then answer as we read it. I know it can be hard to stand up to some people but in the end it is the only choice you have if you want a happy contented life.Once you do it the first time it does get easier.
I will say no more but hope in the end the problem between you other tenant gets sorted very soon for your own health.

Red-Squirrel_2

scorpsub wrote: »

I have a feeling one of the children has something wrong with them and I don't meant that to offend anywone but you hear the child howling a lot especially during night

they are massive foreign people

Werewolves and giants?

I'd find a new place if I were you, before they move the vampire cousins in.

scorpsub

London50 wrote: »

Perhaps then if your brother is as good aas you say why not invite him to visit you and see if he will help you?
If there are ANY threats towards you that is what your local police are for. I know you may not believe me but I do know something of what you are going through with the people in your block {we have had that type of thing in the past} but coming onto a forum like this with only part of the facts will only {as you have found} be responded to in the way it has.
We are not nasty people on here, we read the posts then answer as we read it. I know it can be hard to stand up to some people but in the end it is the only choice you have if you want a happy contented life.Once you do it the first time it does get easier.
I will say no more but hope in the end the problem between you other tenant gets sorted very soon for your own health.

I was more angry at how people jumped to conclusions especially with the bigot comment as we really did mean just worried about language barrier.

Just as one of us would of approached them if we knew it was just a couple there but we know they have guests often around so were worried they could have backup, if I did have something like brother round I would be happy to go up myself and try and explain and if they got agitated I had backup or they could word things better for me as a outside party.

And when drink is involved and its very large men, and a language barrier we worry things could otherwise turn nasty easily as past expeirence has taught us.

Anyway thought we would post on here, kept awake from 12.30 bedtime till 10 minutes ago.

I think what is happening is they have guests around for Easter who are up late every night (because of tiredness I haven't been to bed till around 2am last 2 weeks side effect of medication) this is first time I have been to bed earlier and normally been so knocked out I drift straight to sleep as I am a very heavy sleeper (which is why the kids noise in morning is so distressful and shocking) having lived in busy town centres even next to nightclub once and could sleep through that in fact I learned some noise is better than no noise.

Until 3am I heard a few men and a woman laughing a lot, tv on very loud I could just about make out the words and the walls here aren't thin so it must of been full volume.

That I find very disrespectful though as they must at very least realise a tv on at that volume till 3am is excessive.

The way I feel now is both drained but alert so feel like I need to speak to them in morning, I just am worried with way I feel I will even stutter and be nervous, or get agitated with them and them with me and be a slanging match.

So I go back to what do I say? I don't feel like treating them for their noise is a good thing to do, though can understand why people want to do it as a ice breaker.

Guest101

scorpsub wrote: »

Did write a long response but cut it down, you have looked at the word foreign as a dirty word rather than as it was meant as "they are loud people who drink, and as they are foreign it will be difficult to confront them due to language"

You have an agenda to instead of giving advice try and shame me.

"regular" people can drink or have kids, or be noisy or be big we never said they couldn't be but the implied thing was that with their agression in every day life it means they will be worrying to approach just as 1/2 timid people approaching a group of large men who drink and scream and shout isn't a good situation.

So you are bringing YOUR morals into this and DICTATING to us what we should do and JUDGING us because we don't do what you morally think is right.

To let you know in the past we have been polite and friendly to them in passing and they don't even acknowledge us or even say hello back and in fact give us dirty stares which we don't understand why, we try and be nice and assume maybe they are just tired looking after the kids full of energy, all the other residents in block we have talked to and very friendly with and to let you know all but one of our other neighbours is foreign too in case you accuse us of being bigots again and some don't speak good English.

I didn't accuse you of being bigots. I said what you wrote sounded bigoted. I'm sure you're lovely.

Like I said your only real option is to move

Guest101

scorpsub wrote: »

What a vicious nasty attitude.

You don't know why I don't want to confront them besides I

Please enlighten me to why you think I want someone else to

Do you know the reason for my health condition? Lets just say its related to someone being vicious to me in the past so I don't like confronting people and I have a DIAGNOSED disability.

Witht he knock on effect from medication, pain it makes me struggle to do certain things so you want me to go up to a property with a group of people known to drink and get agressive by myself (or with my housemate who has their own issues)

Before I had the disability and health problems I used to confront people, I would still confront this person now if I was clear headed rested and the couple was on their own.

So don't judge without knowing the bigger picture!

I have a disabled friend, in a wheelchair. Sometimes drunk people say nasty things to them. He's the first to confront them.
I'm just saying - you can let you disability control your life, or you can try overcome it.

Ultimately it is your problem.

I've said it before, but you use the word confront. You have NOTHING to confront them with, you're asking them a favour. So be nice.

Stevie_Palimo

Wow to the few guys who think it is fine to belittle a newbie and jump to conclusions as per usual about being a so called Troll, Such a poor attitude shown by a select few as usual on here lately and go and give yourselves a pat on the back for the ridicule that you post more often than none.


OP you really do have very limited choices and although you believe speaking to the guys is about to get confrontational you cannot just presume that this will be the cases and the many Foreign people I know can be quite loud and abrupt within there own family/friends circle.

Once you actually speak with them you may be surprised to find that you get a civil conversation whereby you can explain your concerns in a calm way and that they will listen to, I'd start with a polite hello and introduction if you do not know them to speak to as of yet and gauge if it is worth while carrying on with a view to air your concerns, If you get a fairly hostile responses from the introduction and do not feel confident enough to pursue the issue then seek some assistance from a family member, If you start this with a letter it may not show you up in such a good light and could make the divide even further.

If neither of these work then you could always go the council route and for this it would be better off recording all event and documenting the times of the noise to, A long and drawn out timeframe to deal with and the better way is to approach this head on first as per above.

Good luck to you and please ignore the few people on here that have posted ill thought out drivel in the hopes of looking good with the few others within the clique.