Neighbours with hyperactive kids now in Easter holidays!

scorpsub

What would you do? I have a feeling one of the children has something wrong with them and I don't meant that to offend anywone but you hear the child howling a lot especially during night, then come 6am you hear two children running about often to around this time every day laughing and stomping.

And we know kids are full of energy but the volume is louder than usual, we only moved here in November from around the corner where above and below we had couples with kids and never had this kind of noise.

We are both too timid to confront the couple as they are massive foreign people who shout and we see them drinking especially at weekend.

We are more agrivated that they don't think about us, its obvious that they have neighbours, since last week have had daily extreme levels of noise, Thursday I was woken 6am by kids running, 7am by a loud crash then kids laughter THEN adults laughter and this continued on alot until lunchtime when I woke and as I currently am a bit ill makes it very stressful.

We were thinking of writing a letter but don't want them coming to our door intimidating us, and if we report it to council they may threaten us for getting them in trouble.

Is writing a note the best way? If so how do we word it.

I want to make it clear to them I am tolerant of normal noise but not sounds like kids knocking over furniture at 6am and running about for hours and yelling and screaming AND the parents shouting and laughing so loudly we can hear it as when the walls are thick enough and fire doors in every room so muffles out sound then the noise they are generating isn't everyday noise.

Guest101

scorpsub wrote: »

What would you do? I have a feeling one of the children has something wrong with them and I don't meant that to offend anywone but you hear the child howling a lot especially during night, then come 6am you hear two children running about often to around this time every day laughing and stomping.

And we know kids are full of energy but the volume is louder than usual, we only moved here in November from around the corner where above and below we had couples with kids and never had this kind of noise. - kids arent all the same

We are both too timid to confront the couple as they are massive foreign people who shout and we see them drinking especially at weekend. - so? you have nothing to confront them with, it's kids being kids and adults having a drink

We are more agrivated that they don't think about us - why should they? you've not even mentioned it to them , its obvious that they have neighbours, since last week have had daily extreme levels of noise, Thursday I was woken 6am by kids running, 7am by a loud crash then kids laughter THEN adults laughter and this continued on alot until lunchtime when I woke and as I currently am a bit ill makes it very stressful. - so talk to them, they aren't psychic

We were thinking of writing a letter but don't want them coming to our door intimidating us, and if we report it to council they may threaten us for getting them in trouble. - are you serious? Have a conversation with them. (and this wont get them in trouble, you have zero legal basis for a claim)

Is writing a note the best way? If so how do we word it. - no

I want to make it clear to them I am tolerant of normal noise but not sounds like kids knocking over furniture at 6am and running about for hours and yelling and screaming AND the parents shouting and laughing so loudly we can hear it as when the walls are thick enough and fire doors in every room so muffles out sound then the noise they are generating isn't everyday noise.

Then you may need to consider moving, you have no legal leg to stand on.

scorpsub

Guest101 wrote: »

Then you may need to consider moving, you have no legal leg to stand on.

Nice of you to shove your morals in our faces not knowing the full picture, as you say its not a one side fits all we used to live next to schools and had no problems, have lived above and below people with toddlers and no problems.

Not going to argue with you but you have no idea what you are talking about, we are tolerant people and don't deserve hours of excessive noise every day, and yes it is excessive when picture frames fall off the wall or light shades, its excessive when we can sleep through roadworks outside our window and not this.

Use some common sense and see that how can 2 vulernable timid people stand up to a group of people who shout and scream whenever they want and like their drink.

I have my suspicions the parents are locking kids in bedroom whilst they drink too.

Also this is a council property.

What are you going on about legal basis for claim? We don't want to claim anything we just want noise down to tolerable level, that means we don't mind kids up at 6am and heavy footed or laughing but not furniture being knocked over and screaming at top of voices.

KateySW

From my own experience with very loud neighbours (this was the two adults screaming at each other for various reasons in the flat above us), please don't make your first point of contact with them a note. It really didn't work in our favour. My housemate at the time could hear our neighbours arguing and posted a note instead of talking to them because he was unwell at the time and couldn't stomach the idea of a shouting match. We got a note back basically telling us to shove it and suggesting we treat them like human beings and talk to them, which we did next time but by that point the damage had already been done - they thought we were passive aggressive, already didn't like us and certainly didn't want to be considerate for us. I know it isn't nice (believe me, I hate confrontation) but try to raise it face-to-face first. Maybe just pop round, and explain you've been unwell and you're struggling with the noise and you'd really appreciate their understanding at this time? Maybe take small Easter eggs round for the kids as a peace offering (or not if that'll make them more hyper haha!). Just make an effort to be friendly and talk to them as unemotionally as you can, even if you're frustrated. It's honestly the best way to start. If it doesn't work, well, they've shown their true colours and you can take it from there.

Also, I hate to be the voice of doom, but if it's noise mostly coming from kids, the council would probably be reluctant to do anything. Noise from the parents, maybe. But either way, involving the council is a long, slow process and can take a really long time to sort, especially as someone from the council would have to come round if the noise was happening at unsociable hours to verify it. It can also cause a lot of aggro, so it really is best to try and resolve it amicably beforehand. Who knows, they might just be a bit oblivious and not realise how noisy they are... here's hoping!

Oakdene

scorpsub wrote: »

Nice of you to shove your morals in our faces not knowing the full picture, as you say its not a one side fits all we used to live next to schools and had no problems, have lived above and below people with toddlers and no problems.

Not going to argue with you but you have no idea what you are talking about, we are tolerant people and don't deserve hours of excessive noise every day, and yes it is excessive when picture frames fall off the wall or light shades, its excessive when we can sleep through roadworks outside our window and not this.

Use some common sense and see that how can 2 vulernable timid people stand up to a group of people who shout and scream whenever they want and like their drink.

I have my suspicions the parents are locking kids in bedroom whilst they drink too.

Also this is a council property.

What are you going on about legal basis for claim? We don't want to claim anything we just want noise down to tolerable level, that means we don't mind kids up at 6am and heavy footed or laughing but not furniture being knocked over and screaming at top of voices.

That is a hell of a suspicion to make....

thorsoak

scorpsub wrote: »

What would you do? I have a feeling one of the children has something wrong with them and I don't meant that to offend anywone but you hear the child howling a lot especially during night, then come 6am you hear two children running about often to around this time every day laughing and stomping.

And we know kids are full of energy but the volume is louder than usual, we only moved here in November from around the corner where above and below we had couples with kids and never had this kind of noise.

We are both too timid to confront the couple as they are massive foreign people who shout and we see them drinking especially at weekend.

We are more agrivated that they don't think about us, its obvious that they have neighbours, since last week have had daily extreme levels of noise, Thursday I was woken 6am by kids running, 7am by a loud crash then kids laughter THEN adults laughter and this continued on alot until lunchtime when I woke and as I currently am a bit ill makes it very stressful.

We were thinking of writing a letter but don't want them coming to our door intimidating us, and if we report it to council they may threaten us for getting them in trouble.

Is writing a note the best way? If so how do we word it.

I want to make it clear to them I am tolerant of normal noise but not sounds like kids knocking over furniture at 6am and running about for hours and yelling and screaming AND the parents shouting and laughing so loudly we can hear it as when the walls are thick enough and fire doors in every room so muffles out sound then the noise they are generating isn't everyday noise.

If it has worried you enough to enrol on an new website in order to make this complaint, it should worry you enough to make a complaint to your local council.

However, it is the school holidays, and children are allowed - within reason - to let off steam when they are on school holidays and as the weather has turned so warm and bright, no wonder they are "kicking up their heels".

So, unless you are living in an over-55s enclave, I do not see why you have reason to complain. Are they kicking balls into your garden? Are they smoking weed under your windows?

Live and let live - school holidays will last a couple of weeks.

scorpsub

thorsoak wrote: »

If it has worried you enough to enrol on an new website in order to make this complaint, it should worry you enough to make a complaint to your local council.

However, it is the school holidays, and children are allowed - within reason - to let off steam when they are on school holidays and as the weather has turned so warm and bright, no wonder they are "kicking up their heels".

So, unless you are living in an over-55s enclave, I do not see why you have reason to complain. Are they kicking balls into your garden? Are they smoking weed under your windows?

Live and let live - school holidays will last a couple of weeks.

To be very clear the noise happens all time but has amplified over Easter, just as it amplified over Christmas it seems if the kids are off school they make noise or if parents have guests round they make noise.

And its not just a bit here and there, at times it has been 6 or more hours of slamming stuff into walls, sounds like knocking furniiture over, tantrums where it sounds like they are throwing all their toys into walls, it would be more tolerable but you can hear them in every room in the house,.

Oakdene wrote: »

That is a hell of a suspicion to make....

It is, but when on certain things like weekend evenings you hear music in living rooms and drunk sounding adults, and kids running about in both bedrooms and slamming noises into walls it seems the parents are drinking in living room, and you see parents on balcony with cans on hand and visually drunk.

And those times the parents drink we get our buzzer rang a few times a hour people wanting in to go to the property and you hear them loud in the stairways.

I myself was polite to them when I saw them a few times when we moved here and just got blank stares, not sure if language barrier as they are European, or because they are exhausted from the kids or anything else.

London50

"when picture frames fall off the wall or light shades"

I would suggest not putting picture frames on light shades;0)

thorsoak

Maybe you should look at this site :- https://www.gov.uk/how-to-resolve-neighbour-disputes/overview

The_Logans

I do feel for you, I hate other people's noise. I grew up in a 'four-in-block' and the bloke upstairs was so noisy it was unreal. The sound-proofing was dreadful too. My Dad frequently had to go and ask him to turn his music down as I couldn't sleep it was so loud. When I bought my first flat it was the same. A deaf old biddy next door, and a young couple upstairs who must have been nearly deaf from the racket they made constantly. In both cases though I went to them directly, no notes or anything. I'm not great with confrontation myself but it certainly helped a bit (more than a note would I think).

PasturesNew

The problems are:
- those who have not suffered will be unsympathetic.
- children are a protected species and parents will wave the golden ticket under your nose

Good luck