Neighbours with hyperactive kids now in Easter holidays!

scorpsub

Guest101 wrote: »

So you think they should move?


I'm sorry, but there's no way you can dictate like this to others. You need to engage them in a reasonable conversation. Bring cake; ask them if the kids could be quitter in the early hours.

Did write a long response but cut it down, you have looked at the word foreign as a dirty word rather than as it was meant as "they are loud people who drink, and as they are foreign it will be difficult to confront them due to language"

You have an agenda to instead of giving advice try and shame me.

"regular" people can drink or have kids, or be noisy or be big we never said they couldn't be but the implied thing was that with their agression in every day life it means they will be worrying to approach just as 1/2 timid people approaching a group of large men who drink and scream and shout isn't a good situation.

So you are bringing YOUR morals into this and DICTATING to us what we should do and JUDGING us because we don't do what you morally think is right.

To let you know in the past we have been polite and friendly to them in passing and they don't even acknowledge us or even say hello back and in fact give us dirty stares which we don't understand why, we try and be nice and assume maybe they are just tired looking after the kids full of energy, all the other residents in block we have talked to and very friendly with and to let you know all but one of our other neighbours is foreign too in case you accuse us of being bigots again and some don't speak good English.

Marisco

IAmWales wrote: »

I wonder if sheltered housing or a scheme for older people might be suitable for the OP. These can be available for younger people where they are vulnerable and/ or have health difficulties. Would this work for you scorpsub?

Yes, this was my thinking when I asked the question.

LilElvis

If it's really annoying you that much then you will overcome your timidity and go and have a word. Taking a small gift, as others have suggested, should help to make you appear less judgmental and more open to being "neighbourly". You have to at least attempt this before contacting the council - your neighbours aren't psychic so maybe unaware that they are being too loud. Going to any authority without giving them the chance to modify their behaviour really will cause ill will.

BTW - young children being up and about at 6am really isn't unusual.

scorpsub

thorsoak wrote: »

Sigh .....troll detector being activated peeps ....a new poster, mentioning the ethnicity of the perpetrators of the problem .....then responding to posters who question whether OP is being reasonable in keyboard warrior style after saying "We are both too timid to confront the couple as they are massive foreign people who shout and we see them drinking especially at weekend..........

..........We were thinking of writing a letter but don't want them coming to our door intimidating us, and if we report it to council they may threaten us for getting them in trouble.

Is writing a note the best way? If so how do we word it."

My last post on the subject.

PS - remember its the Easter holidays! :-D

Why is a new poster a troll? Why is the word foreign a dirty word?

Wish some people would use logic and stop being PC and think that the word foreign was used to imply language barriers.

To let you know I was a member on here a long time ago but forgot my login details, I first registered here in 2007 and thought of this website as the first place to go onto.

How are we the keyboard warriors when we are the ones being told things like we are bigots!

I find your comment ignorant rather than rude though as you have made a rash judgement.

I didn't write the best as maybe I was stressed from lack of sleep, and my health issues made me feel worse but I am not the keyboard warrior here!!

scorpsub

LilElvis wrote: »

If it's really annoying you that much then you will overcome your timidity and go and have a word. Taking a small gift, as others have suggested, should help to make you appear less judgmental and more open to being "neighbourly". You have to at least attempt this before contacting the council - your neighbours aren't psychic so maybe unaware that they are being too loud. Going to any authority without giving them the chance to modify their behaviour really will cause ill will.

BTW - young children being up and about at 6am really isn't unusual.

And this shows why people haven't understood what we meant .no offense to you I hope you don't think we are as nowhere did I say 6am is unusual for kids to get up, as I was up at that time when I was a kid just as I EXPECT kids to make noise at that time which is why I got used to the noise to a point (my bedroom is the one below the kids one) the problem is specifically they sound like they are knocking over furniture which makes the lightshade and picture frame rattle which shows how loud it is, and to hear that every few minutes for 6 hours, its not as if I hear it a few times and fall back to sleep its constant, it calms down a bit around lunchtime as we assume they go out then come back about 2pm and its noise until teatime where it almost stops bar if they are out late. I may be timid myself but not the sort who freaks out over every spot of noise as I used to live in a town centre a few years back above a row of pubs, the noise from drunks didn't disturb me nor did the karaoke, nor did the busy road that had buses around 5am that rattled windows, just as when they did road works here 2 weeks ago I was fine with that even though it was just outside my window they were digging up!

The whole reason we HAVEN'T gone to the council as we want to speak to them first but when you are drained from health and noise you don't feel like going up which is why we ideally want to see them passing our door so we can speak to them in a situation that is relaxing for both parties.

Part of my issues is I am recovering from minor mental health issues after a family death, but I am tolerant of noise such as at last property neighbours had washing machine quite a few times to 2am as it didn't disturb my sleep, and had a dog that barked again didn't disturb my sleep much even if it barked a lot of the day, I even had a family below me with a newborn and 2 toddlers who woke at 6am and put tv on full, apart from waking me early I didn't care about it, I even had upstairs neighbour have guests round every weekend and some weekdays around 7am and never complained.

So all this shows I am tolerant of noise, and I like the noise of kids playing.

Even now we tolerated it to a point as its been ongoing 6 months and flaring up at weekends and holiday time.

DCFC79

If you want to do something about it either report them anonymously or speak to them about it or just put up with it.

scorpsub

Marisco wrote: »

Op, are you pensioners, if not what do you mean "timid and vulnerable"? TBH if it was that intolerable, I'd just move.

If we move we would lose our social housing, if we were lucky and got a transfer it would cost at least £150 to move as neither of us drive, and no we are both in early 30's

DCFC79 wrote: »

If you want to do something about it either report them anonymously or speak to them about it or just put up with it.

We would feel guilty reporting them without giving them a chance to sort it, but also don't want the risk of them getting angry its a catch 22 situation.

We felt writing a note was best compromise but worried about how we worded it so didn't seem like busybodies, plus felt with language barrier they may misinterpret our words.

Going in person would be best way of dealing with it if we had someone do it for us who couldn't be intimidated.

LilElvis

How do your neighbours, and theirs, feel about the noise? As you appear to live in flats then you won't be the only ones being disturbed. Have any of them approached the family and what was the response they received?

scorpsub

LilElvis wrote: »

How do your neighbours, and theirs, feel about the noise? As you appear to live in flats then you won't be the only ones being disturbed. Have any of them approached the family and what was the response they received?

The way the noise seems to travel it seems to be from things like furniture getting knocked over so upstairs from them wouldn't notice, and their neighbour on other side of them is a friendly alcoholic who is always merry and shaking your hand but never distrubs anyone so hes probably too drunk to notice any noise and couple next to me are hardly ever in the house though we get on with them well.

So it just leaves the couple above them for noise, and they have kids of their own so probably don't notice it much, we hardly ever see them too but they are friendly when we see them.

London50

scorpsub wrote: »

Going in person would be best way of dealing with it if we had someone do it for us who couldn't be intimidated.

This is YOUR problem to sort out not getting some Tom/Richard or Harry to "fight your battles for you". If you do not have the bottle to face these people then be ready for a lifetime of what you are suffering now {or worse}
People should not believe that there is going to be someone around to sort thing out for them. Life is not like that so try standing on your own two feet for once and you never know things MAY get a lot quieter for you.