Neighbours with hyperactive kids now in Easter holidays!

Loz01

I'd go and see them, try and keep it casual in approach "just wondered if you could keep the noise down, especially early morning" - then escalate if nothing happens and complain to your local environmental health noise team or whoever it is that deals with complaints. God I hate noise so this would be my worst nightmare!!!! I thank god every day that I live in a silent cul de sac where no one EVER has a party or makes any kind of noise at night.

tea_lover

So you honestly think that small children are being locked in a room while the parents drink themselves into a stupor? If that's the case why is your main concern how the noise is impacting you and not the safety and welfare of the children?

Guest101

scorpsub wrote: »

Nice of you to shove your morals in our faces not knowing the full picture - no it's the opposite. I'm making no moral judgment, I'm giving you a 3rd party advice on a legal basis. You are making moral arguments, which is fine, but have no bearing in court. , as you say its not a one side fits all we used to live next to schools and had no problems, have lived above and below people with toddlers and no problems. - how is that relevant?

Not going to argue with you but you have no idea what you are talking about - incorrect. , we are tolerant people - irrelevant and don't deserve hours of excessive noise every day - no you don't, but you cant dictate to others. hence my suggestion to move , and yes it is excessive when picture frames fall off the wall or light shades, its excessive when we can sleep through roadworks outside our window and not this. - Ok.

Use some common sense and see that how can 2 vulernable timid people - you're adults correct? stand up to a group of people who shout and scream whenever they want and like their drink. - Don't see the relevance. I like a drink, doesn't mean I'm going to punch your lights out if you come talk to me civilly

I have my suspicions the parents are locking kids in bedroom whilst they drink too. - that's not really relevant, but even if they were, kids get locked into rooms all the time, age dependant. For example stair gates

Also this is a council property. - only partially relevant, and worse for you. The council cant just evict them, like a private landlord might've done if you'd paid them to

What are you going on about legal basis for claim? - Well you want to complain to the council. That's done on a legal basis. We don't want to claim anything we just want noise down - so you want to make a claim, possibly for an injunction, to require the abatement of noise. to tolerable level, that means we don't mind kids up at 6am and heavy footed or laughing but not furniture being knocked over and screaming at top of voices.

I made no moral judgment - which would've been easy given you making a point of them being 'foreign'

scorpsub

Guest101 wrote: »

I made no moral judgment - which would've been easy given you making a point of them being 'foreign'

I was waiting for someone to pick up on that the politically correct crowd, did you not think we used the word foreign to mean language barrier rather than the assumed negativity you have implied!

We never wanted to go direct to council but when 2 timid vulnerable people have to confront large men (bodybuilder type) who like their drink and get loud and agressive then of course you want to avoid confrontation, if we had a friend who could do it for us then its not a problem it would be different if say it was a regular person upstairs and we didn't know they drank.

About the kids locked in, I never said kids are not ever locked in but when you hear this you hear parents in living room laughing and making stereotypical grunting sounds and like "woooooooooooooo" all the time, or outright yelling at top of voice not a very comfortable situation for me downstairs and if they are that drunk with kids in next room not a very good picture.

We are in council house due to health problems.

Why do you think we are dictating? We just want NORMAL levels of noise within logical reason as kids being kids will be more noisy that being said some kids run riot and parents don't care so we shouldn't have the fallout of that, if they had an actual house it wouldnt affect anyone.

Guest101

scorpsub wrote: »

I was waiting for someone to pick up on that the politically correct crowd, did you not think we used the word foreign to mean language barrier rather than the assumed negativity you have implied! - Oh, I see. Well that says a lot. Just FYI I'm fairly un-pc (as i'm sure some on here will attest to), just FYI you said: We are both too timid to confront the couple as they are massive foreign people who shout and we see them drinking especially at weekend.

There's no implication of a language barrier. it was clearly written to describe them in a negative light: 'Drunk, Massive foreigners'

We never wanted to go direct to council but when 2 timid vulnerable people have to confront - you keep using the word confront. You don't have to, you can just talk to them, like you might anyone else. large men (bodybuilder type) - what relevance is that. It's no more relevant than you describing yourself as vulnerable. You're judging them without speaking to them, which is why you come across as totally bigoted. who like their drink and get loud and agressive then of course you want to avoid confrontation - so in your world everything is a battle? , if we had a friend who could do it for us then its not a problem it would be different if say it was a regular person upstairs and we didn't know they drank. - What do you mean regular person? According to your logic - timid and vulnerable - the average Jo would pose a threat

About the kids locked in, I never said kids are not ever locked in but when you hear this you hear parents in living room laughing and making stereotypical grunting sounds and like "woooooooooooooo" all the time, or outright yelling at top of voice not a very comfortable situation for me downstairs and if they are that drunk with kids in next room not a very good picture. - In your 'moral' opinion. there is no legal implication

We are in council house due to health problems. - so?

Why do you think we are dictating? - because you are? We just want NORMAL levels of noise within logical reason as kids being kids will be more noisy that being said some kids run riot and parents don't care so we shouldn't have the fallout of that, if they had an actual house it wouldnt affect anyone.

So you think they should move?


I'm sorry, but there's no way you can dictate like this to others. You need to engage them in a reasonable conversation. Bring cake; ask them if the kids could be quitter in the early hours.

FBaby

OP, my OH and I are in the same situation having to cope with the abnormal level of noise, screaming, shouting, screetching to a level where I have to put my hands over my ears at times. It is extremely stressful.

We've spoken to the parents but as we expected they didn't care nor intended to do anything about it. Unfortunately, the reality is that: even though you are not the one causing the problem, you'll have to be the one doing something about it.

We lived happily here for years without trouble. There were children in the property and yes, they made noise at time but it was normal level and it was fine. This family moves in, and it is us who will have to move. Is it right? Of course not. Can we do something about it? Nope, so here we are. OH is clear though that we shall be living where they are no neighbours within 500 yards!

Guest101

FBaby wrote: »

OP, my OH and I are in the same situation having to cope with the abnormal level of noise, screaming, shouting, screetching to a level where I have to put my hands over my ears at times. It is extremely stressful.

We've spoken to the parents but as we expected they didn't care nor intended to do anything about it. Unfortunately, the reality is that: even though you are not the one causing the problem, you'll have to be the one doing something about it.

We lived happily here for years without trouble. There were children in the property and yes, they made noise at time but it was normal level and it was fine. This family moves in, and it is us who will have to move. Is it right? Of course not. Can we do something about it? Nope, so here we are. OH is clear though that we shall be living where they are no neighbours within 500 yards!

That's the dream for me!

thorsoak

Sigh .....troll detector being activated peeps ....a new poster, mentioning the ethnicity of the perpetrators of the problem .....then responding to posters who question whether OP is being reasonable in keyboard warrior style after saying "We are both too timid to confront the couple as they are massive foreign people who shout and we see them drinking especially at weekend..........

..........We were thinking of writing a letter but don't want them coming to our door intimidating us, and if we report it to council they may threaten us for getting them in trouble.

Is writing a note the best way? If so how do we word it."

My last post on the subject.

PS - remember its the Easter holidays! :-D

Marisco

Op, are you pensioners, if not what do you mean "timid and vulnerable"? TBH if it was that intolerable, I'd just move.

IAmWales

Marisco wrote: »

Op, are you pensioners, if not what do you mean "timid and vulnerable"? TBH if it was that intolerable, I'd just move.

I wonder if sheltered housing or a scheme for older people might be suitable for the OP. These can be available for younger people where they are vulnerable and/ or have health difficulties. Would this work for you scorpsub?