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Three with their cheap 321 PAYG rate only works on 3G network.0
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Which network is that?
As far as I know all networks have 2G and work on 2G. Phone calls and text (SMS) messages work with 2G. 3G and 4G is for email and internet.
You didn't know that Three only have a 3G and 4G network?
Even when they used to have national roaming on Orange 2G for voice they prohibited the use of 2G only phones and would suspend service to anyone trying to use a 2G only phone.
Your basic understanding is also wrong, 2G is capable of calls, texts and data, just like 3G is used for calls, texts and data..
The networks are also rolling out calls on 4G, Three call it SuperVoice and EE call it 4G Calling, its technical name is VoLTE.====0 -
You didn't know that Three only have a 3G and 4G network?
Even when they used to have national roaming on Orange 2G for voice they prohibited the use of 2G only phones and would suspend service to anyone trying to use a 2G only phone.
Your basic understanding is also wrong, 2G is capable of calls, texts and data, just like 3G is used for calls, texts and data..
The networks are also rolling out calls on 4G, Three call it SuperVoice and EE call it 4G Calling, its technical name is VoLTE.
How very pedantic of you.
But anyway, that's what you get for being on a hick network such as 3. Also possible that certain GPS trackers which work on 2G also won't work on 3.
Where did I say that 2G cannot be used for data?
The reality is not that 2G doesn't work on 3 but that they block 2G phones. When a 3 SIM is placed in a 2G phone it initially connects to the 3 network.
On networks that support all three speeds, 4G is for internet and calls, 3G includes internet, calls and texts and 2G is for calls and texts.
http://ee.co.uk/why-ee/mobile-coverage (enter your postcard.4G
For internet and calls
3G
For internet, calls & texts
2G
For calls & texts
I understand very well how it works. Your problem is you don't understand it.0 -
How very pedantic of you.
Where was I pedantic?But anyway, that's what you get for being on a hick network such as 3.
Where did I say I'm on Three? I'm not, but the point being made was about the 2G phone not working on the cheapest PAYG in the country.
Pay attention, now.Where did I say that 2G cannot be used for data?
In your post, you waffled on about 2G only being for calls and texts.The reality is not that 2G doesn't work on 3 but that they block 2G phones. When a 3 SIM is placed in a 2G phone it initially connects to the 3 network.
Where do you dream this rubbish up? 2G doesn't work on Three because they have no 2G infrastructure, no 2G masts, no 2G licence and absolutely no connection for a 2G phone to utilise.When a 3 SIM is placed in a 2G phone it initially connects to the 3 network.
What? You're hilarious, how would a 2G phone connect to the Three network? They only offer a UMTS 3G and LTE 4G network.
I know you're struggling, but Three DONT HAVE A 2G GSM NETWORK... ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING, NONE.On networks that support all three speeds, 4G is for internet and calls, 3G includes internet, calls and texts and 2G is for calls and texts.
Nope, wrong again, currently the networks work as follows, 4G is for data and some phones (for example the newer iPhones and some higher end Android handsets)can place calls on 4G, however the large majority of handsets people use still use 3G or 2G to make calls and NOT 4G, both 2G and 3G are quite capable of data as well.
2G uses a technology called EDGE and speeds on upgraded EDGE sites are quite adequate for basic browsing, email etc with speeds of up to 384Kbps.
To prevent a further incident of you looking quite so ignorant, you might want to read up a little.
Here's a starting point of the differences:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/network-wifi/what-is-difference-between-3g-4g-gprs-e-wi-fi-3509254/
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/gsm-edge/basics-tutorial-technology.phpI understand very well how it works. Your problem is you don't understand it.
You unfortunately seem to understand very little, and considering I worked in the mobile phone industry for 15 years (including for 2 networks) will probably always understand more about it than you, even if you were to study and read up on it for the next few years.
You do realise you have a strange and abrasive manner of posting, something that seems incongruous when you are posting from your position of ignorance of the basic facts...====0 -
Anthorn, I am a basic mobile phone punter.
d123 is correct.
Three don't have a 2G network structure or 2G bandwidth. They got thier name from from the fact they based their services around the 3G band which was new at the time.
Also you can use 2G for data. I have a 2G/3G phone which allows me to switch to the 2G to save power. I use the 2G option to download data to my other phone via the tethering option when that phone is in a provider blackspot.
Anthorn, I do suggest you do read up about things before you post as it does show your ignorance about the subject.
In the age of Google where the facts are at everybody's fingertips, your posts shows just how you don't use it.The more I live, the more I learn.
The more I learn, the more I grow.
The more I grow, the more I see.
The more I see, the more I know.
The more I know, the more I see,
How little I know.!!
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Where was I pedantic?
Where did I say I'm on Three? I'm not, but the point being made was about the 2G phone not working on the cheapest PAYG in the country.
Pay attention, now.
In your post, you waffled on about 2G only being for calls and texts.
Where do you dream this rubbish up? 2G doesn't work on Three because they have no 2G infrastructure, no 2G masts, no 2G licence and absolutely no connection for a 2G phone to utilise.
What? You're hilarious, how would a 2G phone connect to the Three network? They only offer a UMTS 3G and LTE 4G network.
I know you're struggling, but Three DONT HAVE A 2G GSM NETWORK... ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING, NONE.
Nope, wrong again, currently the networks work as follows, 4G is for data and some phones (for example the newer iPhones and some higher end Android handsets)can place calls on 4G, however the large majority of handsets people use still use 3G or 2G to make calls and NOT 4G, both 2G and 3G are quite capable of data as well.
2G uses a technology called EDGE and speeds on upgraded EDGE sites are quite adequate for basic browsing, email etc with speeds of up to 384Kbps.
To prevent a further incident of you looking quite so ignorant, you might want to read up a little.
Here's a starting point of the differences:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/network-wifi/what-is-difference-between-3g-4g-gprs-e-wi-fi-3509254/
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/gsm-edge/basics-tutorial-technology.php
You unfortunately seem to understand very little, and considering I worked in the mobile phone industry for 15 years (including for 2 networks) will probably always understand more about it than you, even if you were to study and read up on it for the next few years.
You do realise you have a strange and abrasive manner of posting, something that seems incongruous when you are posting from your position of ignorance of the basic facts...
Yet more pedantry: You are without any doubt the most pedantic poster on MSE. For crying out loud I'm making a quick forum post not writing a scientific paper! Good grief you even criticise my style of posting. While you're on Wikipedia look up "Pedantry".
Go back to my previous post: If I'm wrong then EE is wrong because I quoted EE and linked to their web page.
It is a fact that when a 3 SIM is placed in a 2G phone it initially connects to the 3 network.
http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBISAPI.dll/,/?New,Kb=Mobile,Ts=Mobile,T=CaseDoc,Case=Obj(1344)
It wasn't me who introduced the 3 network into this discussion. It was you with the underlying argument that because it won't work on the 3 network it won't work anywhere.
Where did I say that 2G was available on the 3 network? 3 initially partnered with O2 to provide a 2G network but then later blocked 2G phones to force everyone on 3 to use the 3 network. As I said previously, it's not that 2G phones don't work with 3 it's because 3 blocks 2G phones or more accurately blocks 2G roaming.
http://kenstechtips.com/index.php/three-begins-2g-coverage-switch-off-have-you-been-affected-your-rights
But ouch, I'm starting to engage in pedantry myself. Bye-bye.0 -
I have an MP3 player, internet browser, sat nav, email service, camera, video recorder, and many other functions all in one device, which also allows me to make phone calls.
If I did go back to a phone-only handset, then I'd be needing to carry other things too.
(I have some spare old phones, including a Nokia 6700, but wouldn't go back to a single-function device.)0 -
I have an MP3 player, internet browser, sat nav, email service, camera, video recorder, and many other functions all in one device, which also allows me to make phone calls.
If I did go back to a phone-only handset, then I'd be needing to carry other things too.
(I have some spare old phones, including a Nokia 6700, but wouldn't go back to a single-function device.)
So you won't be getting a 3310 then.
But who says the 3310 is only single function? It's dual function at least including calls and texts . But as Techradar points out there may be other functions and there is is an app store and other functions may be upcoming.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/new-nokia-3310-2017-reviewThat gives you a number of menu options with classics like Call Logs, Contacts, Calculator and Messages joined by a calendar, a basic web browser, photos, radio, music player, voice recorder and a camera application.
There's even an app store where you can download games and apps - although it wasn't currently functional during our hands on time with the phone.
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Anthorn, I am a basic mobile phone punter.
d123 is correct.
Three don't have a 2G network structure or 2G bandwidth. They got thier name from from the fact they based their services around the 3G band which was new at the time.
Also you can use 2G for data. I have a 2G/3G phone which allows me to switch to the 2G to save power. I use the 2G option to download data to my other phone via the tethering option when that phone is in a provider blackspot.
Anthorn, I do suggest you do read up about things before you post as it does show your ignorance about the subject.
In the age of Google where the facts are at everybody's fingertips, your posts shows just how you don't use it.
Completely false and irrelevant. Inserting your own words and phrases which I didn't say nor referred to. It's significant that you didn't quote my post which you are allegedly replying to. I suggest you read my previous post which is in reply to d123. That's if you can understand it.0 -
Anthorn, I do suggest you do read up about things before you post as it does show your ignorance about the subject.
In the age of Google where the facts are at everybody's fingertips, your posts shows just how you don't use it.
I don't think it's worth trying to interact with anthorn, it would appear I'm not fluent enough in Trollese to make him understand, and he appears to have a knack of just regurgitating the same rubbish over and over in posts without ever trying to learn anything.
The saying that ignorance is bliss is an apt description for him, it seems...====0
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