Dementia Home wanting to expand into semi detached neighbour

sparky130a

The neighbour doesn't want to sell, the OP doesn't want to sell.

I don't even understand why the thread exists.

It's not even like there is any chance of a CPO.

brindlebum

sparky130a wrote: »

The neighbour doesn't want to sell, the OP doesn't want to sell.

I don't even understand why the thread exists.

It's not even like there is any chance of a CPO.

you keep changing what you're outraged about, each time it comes down to not reading the post correctly. The neighbour doesn't wish to sell unless the money is right. Given the additional revenue this will give the care home in the long term, I suspect they will meet their valuation and Im worried about where it leaves us. You're the only one mentioning a CPO.

seashore22

Leaving aside the highly emotive subject of the care of dementia sufferers (I strongly suspect that my own mother is in the early stages of dementia herself) I can't see why the op is getting so wound up (or winding us up).

It is highly unlikely that the care home will get permission to do this anyway. I can't see any planning department approving a scheme to make a semi into an end terrace against the owners will or suddenly making the op's home adjoined to a care home.

brindlebum

sparky130a wrote: »

Besides which you cannot conjoin a residential property to a commercial one on a whim.

This is exactly what interests me. i have no experience of these things but it feels that their intention to do this and have such a huge change of use of the property would be frowned upon by Planning. Have you any experience of this?

brindlebum

seashore22 wrote: »

Leaving aside the highly emotive subject of the care of dementia sufferers (I strongly suspect that my own mother is in the early stages of dementia herself) I can't see why the op is getting so wound up (or winding us up).

It is highly unlikely that the care home will get permission to do this anyway. I can't see any planning department approving a scheme to make a semi into an end terrace against the owners will or suddenly making the op's home adjoined to a care home.

TBF, that's what I'm interested in learning. If this is the case then it makes my own position far stronger. BTW, I'm trying to be factual not emotive. I appreciate it's sensitive, but it will certainly impact my life in terms of noise and finance.

brindlebum

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Why not ask a question that they must know would have occurred to OP's neighbour?

Hardly "orchestrators of sinister conspiracies". It's just the case that businesses and politicians tend to have strategies they operate by. It's fair enough to try and work out what the strategy of the Other Party is imo. The Care Home won't have any "feelings" about this/concern about OP and neighbour - just a business strategy they are trying to follow.

That's a motto that has served me well over the years - ever since someone told me that I really must "put myself in the shoes" of the Other Party in a major issue that concerned me. They said that I would never realise what way they were thinking/how they were going to operate if I didn't do so and would respond to them in completely the wrong way and I would lose because of it. I wasn't very happy to be told that at the time - but realised my adviser was absolutely correct in what they had just said to me and sat down and tried to "put myself in their shoes" and things went much more successfully for me after that.

That was when I learnt that moral outrage/Right on my side wasn't enough (or anything like) to have a successful conclusion to anything.

No offence to Doozergirl, but I didn't find your post unreasonable or paranoid - you were just hypothesising about their thought process which I think is definitely of value.

seashore22

brindlebum wrote: »

TBF, that's what I'm interested in learning. If this is the case then it makes my own position far stronger. BTW, I'm trying to be factual not emotive. I appreciate it's sensitive, but it will certainly impact my life in terms of noise and finance.

Having now goggled this I'm now not so sure about them refusing planning permission to make a semi into a terrace, which amazes me. Apparently it can happen which seems like madness. I would hope the fact that it's a care home may be more in your favour.

sparky130a

brindlebum wrote: »

you keep changing what you're outraged about, each time it comes down to not reading the post correctly. The neighbour doesn't wish to sell unless the money is right. Given the additional revenue this will give the care home in the long term, I suspect they will meet their valuation and Im worried about where it leaves us. You're the only one mentioning a CPO.

:rotfl:

"Outraged" :rotfl:

Why would i give a holy cra5? It's not my home it's yours. Seriously, get a grip of yourself.

moneyistooshorttomention

seashore22 wrote: »

Having now goggled this I'm now not so sure about them refusing planning permission to make a semi into a terrace, which amazes me. Apparently it can happen which seems like madness. I would hope the fact that it's a care home may be more in your favour.

Me - I'm wondering what the availability of other care homes nearby suitable for dementia sufferers is and what the Council's attitude to care homes (for dementia sufferers or otherwise) is likely to be. The Council may or may not be concerned with the creation of extra care home beds locally - and I guess that would be the factor that would influence them more than physical existing layout of road. That fact might be influenced by whether there is/or isnt an influential Councillor with a relative in a carehome (and therefore possibly taking an "interested" viewpoint on this).

Doozergirl

I didn't say that money's post was paranoid, but considering somone's thought process is a total waste of time because you can never know the answer. It can also create distress when you believe your thoughts. You deal with what is in front of you. All that exists is now.

Although her posts get more weird. The National policy, along with local development plans and supplementary planning guidance are what guides planning decisions. Not whether one councillor has an elderly relative. Most planning decisions are made by one planning officer. More contentious cases may be decided by committee of a dozen or so councillors. They still have to make their decisions on policy.

Countless threads like this go entirely off point while people get sucked in to thinking about things they can't know.